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airjunky 01-29-2015 10:12 PM

Havent seen one either . Or an explamation why the bbf super cobra jet intake works so well on the std port heads .or if my 088' with 2.25 intakes are going to work as good as tom's heads.do the 525 heads have the same exhaust valve p/n as the std 502 mag?

airjunky 01-29-2015 10:15 PM

Definetly havent seen a blower on a set of gmpp crate 502 aluminums or eddys aluminum ovals . Not sayin its never been done

HaxbySpeed 01-29-2015 10:58 PM

Holley/weiand makes one. It's pretty $$ though, and probably not worth anything for what you're doing. I used one years ago on a 525sc with eddy marine heads.

MILD THUNDER 01-30-2015 06:05 AM

http://www.summitracing.com/oh/parts...1win/overview/

ealesh33 01-30-2015 08:01 AM

Good to know thanks Mild. I didn't really look for one once I was told that it wouldn't matter.

ealesh33 01-30-2015 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed (Post 4258058)
Holley/weiand makes one. It's pretty $$ though, and probably not worth anything for what you're doing. I used one years ago on a 525sc with eddy marine heads.

Have you used a square port intake on oval port heads before as well? If so did you notice a difference in the port mismatch? I was told we could weld the intake and head match it, but it would have little to no effect, and I would never notice it. A guy posted earlier in this thread that the square port intake actually did better then the oval on oval heads, not taking it as the gospel for sure, but with the amount of info I have it would be a waste of $680 unless my intake needed replaced.

MILD THUNDER 01-30-2015 08:09 AM

They are not cheap manifolds that's for sure. I know many have ran rectangle port intakes on oval port heads and it works. However I've never seen any data on if switching it for a port matched intake is worth power.

I have a slight mismatch from my rect intakes to rect heads as the ports are slightly different shape. It drives me nuts knowing its like that lol. Sooner or later I plan to pull them and do a nice port match. I wouldn't be able to sleep knowing I have a big rectangle port intake on an oval port head.

Have you seen any hard data that "it doesn't matter" for your application ?

Budman II 01-30-2015 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by ealesh33 (Post 4257742)
I have A 177 weiand blower, your traditional intakes won't work. I haven't looked very hard for intakes as I was told by my builder and Bob that I won't see a difference in my application, but I haven't seen an oval port intake that accepts my blower

Sorry, had it in my mind for some reason that it was a procharger type setup instead of a roots style. Yeah, not a lot of options for oval port intakes for roots blowers.

Budman II 01-30-2015 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4258127)
They are not cheap manifolds that's for sure. I know many have ran rectangle port intakes on oval port heads and it works. However I've never seen any data on if switching it for a port matched intake is worth power.

I have a slight mismatch from my rect intakes to rect heads as the ports are slightly different shape. It drives me nuts knowing its like that lol. Sooner or later I plan to pull them and do a nice port match. I wouldn't be able to sleep knowing I have a big rectangle port intake on an oval port head.

Have you seen any hard data that "it doesn't matter" for your application ?

I just remember being told by several high profile builders that it would be a waste for me to run a great flowing head like my AFR 265's with a huge intake port mismatch. So I went the other way and ran an oval port intake on my "rovals".

ealesh33 01-30-2015 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4258127)
They are not cheap manifolds that's for sure. I know many have ran rectangle port intakes on oval port heads and it works. However I've never seen any data on if switching it for a port matched intake is worth power.

I have a slight mismatch from my rect intakes to rect heads as the ports are slightly different shape. It drives me nuts knowing its like that lol. Sooner or later I plan to pull them and do a nice port match. I wouldn't be able to sleep knowing I have a big rectangle port intake on an oval port head.

Have you seen any hard data that "it doesn't matter" for your application ?

Well every aspect counts for sure, but the question is what is measurable between the 2 in terms of gains or losses. For that question I have no data determining that, but from what I am hearing is that its pretty small. Its easy enough to modify the square port intake to match, but the question is, is it worth spending $680 for an oval intake, or the time and money to modify the square port. Lets compare cost to gains, is it worth spending $680 for 5-10hp? For me that answer would be no at this point with the budget, with a "open wallet" my answer would be yes its worth it, and I would buy the oval port intake. Now if we are talking 25-30hp gain that changes the answer for me to yes. However this is something that can be changed in the boat at anytime, and I would venture to say that it could be an easy swap with no other changes necessary besides maybe my tstat housing and/or adapter as the location is different on my merc intake vs the automotive/street intake.


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