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onesickpantera 03-11-2015 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 4276973)
Oil pan after 300 hrs of use using the Wix Racing filter . Looks pretty clean and all bearings were in great shape .

Looks like you are using cheap oil! :party-smiley-004:

the deep 03-11-2015 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 4277424)
Looks like you are using cheap oil! :party-smiley-004:

Snake oil......

picklenjim 03-11-2015 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by Baja Rooster (Post 4277322)
Just ordered the K&N. $12 on Amazon. Also now that I've ditched the manifolds there's room for the tall filter.

Hey Rooster, looks like you got the short HP 3002 filter, $12 and change. The larger HP 6002 is a few bucks more.

chrisf695 03-11-2015 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by picklenjim (Post 4277471)
Hey Rooster, looks like you got the short HP 3002 filter, $12 and change. The larger HP 6002 is a few bucks more.

The taller filter will provide zero benefit. The K&N 3002 is a huge upgrade and designed (pleat count and height wise) for a V-8. Larger filter just adds oil volume, which isn't always a good thing. A longer filter does not equate to better filtration for those following this.

Baja Rooster 03-11-2015 10:23 PM

Just to kick the can around, why wouldn't more volume be a good thing?

onesickpantera 03-11-2015 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by Baja Rooster (Post 4277493)
Just to kick the can around, why wouldn't more volume be a good thing?

I would like to hear this as well.

And what do the experts recommend for minimum flow for an oil filter? To get better filtration you have to give up flow.

14 apache 03-11-2015 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4276273)
That's why I made my own housing for these. The hp6 on the dyno started to do that.
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Mine is long! and I Think its better.
Big too :food-smiley-007:

BUP 03-11-2015 10:39 PM

Filtration and flow has a fine balance to it especially depending on the engine app - you can not have 100 % filtration to maintain 100 % flow just as you can not have 100 % unrestricted flow to maintain 100 % filtration. A happy balance point is between the 2. You can not have the complete best of one without hurting the other.

picklenjim 03-12-2015 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by chrisf695 (Post 4277474)
The taller filter will provide zero benefit. The K&N 3002 is a huge upgrade and designed (pleat count and height wise) for a V-8. Larger filter just adds oil volume, which isn't always a good thing. A longer filter does not equate to better filtration for those following this.

I would also be interested in knowing why more oil system volume may not be a good thing. Obviously a longer filter isn't going to equate to better filtration. 10 micron filtration is what it is no matter how big the filter is. Seems to me by doubling the filtration area you are going to have a higher overall flow rate. Remember most of these engines on here are running high volume pumps and spinning over 5,000 RPM's.

onesickpantera 03-12-2015 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4277505)
Filtration and flow has a fine balance to it especially depending on the engine app - you can not have 100 % filtration to maintain 100 % flow just as you can not have 100 % unrestricted flow to maintain 100 % filtration. A happy balance point is between the 2. You can not have the complete best of one without hurting the other.

Exactly. I would think that different engines will have different demands for flow. But, what is generally considered "adequate" flow? Is 12 gpm enough for a stock 502? For a 800hp supercharged 540?


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