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MILD THUNDER 03-20-2015 09:05 AM

Sounds like your problem is the ring groove depth .

What year/era were these pistons you bought from fscreenname ?

TomZ 03-20-2015 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4281442)
Tom, I dont know what year your engines are/were, but the old pistons from the mark iv 370's, 400's, 420s, 365, etc, were the same. The later Gen 6 454 pistons used a different part #.

Later style piston

737-850477T

Early piston

737-5536T

Joe, everything should be MKIV. The stamped part numbers on the pistons are GM 3999295. They are "supposed" to use a 5/64 5/64 3/16 standard ring pack. Looks like I could order Hastings 2M4718 and get the right set to bastardize things, but that just seems rather jerry rigged to me.

My wonder is why GM would use the same part number but change the design.

TomZ 03-20-2015 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4281536)
Sounds like your problem is the ring groove depth .

What year/era were these pistons you bought from fscreenname ?

Unknown. We were both pretty sure of the fact that with the part numbers the same that this wouldn't have been an issue. So far, I'm stumped as to the difference.

MILD THUNDER 03-20-2015 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4281580)
Joe, everything should be MKIV. The stamped part numbers on the pistons are GM 3999295. They are "supposed" to use a 5/64 5/64 3/16 standard ring pack. Looks like I could order Hastings 2M4718 and get the right set to bastardize things, but that just seems rather jerry rigged to me.

My wonder is why GM would use the same part number but change the design.

Yes, something had to change for merc to change part numbers for the replacement pistons from one 454 std bore to another , even though the same dome ...I think the slotted piston is a later style , not for sure though

Pismo10 03-20-2015 10:29 AM

Knock offs?

TomZ 03-20-2015 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Pismo10 (Post 4281592)
Knock offs?

Not knock offs.

f_inscreenname 03-20-2015 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4281536)
Sounds like your problem is the ring groove depth .

What year/era were these pistons you bought from fscreenname ?

1970 as best we can figure

airjunky 03-21-2015 12:14 AM

Couldnt find trw book (better ) but gm book says 4 different id pistons ,4032 9295 2972 9382 "id number " all fall under the same part number for 9 to1 1971 ls6 piston 6262976

airjunky 03-21-2015 12:32 AM

The better book , once i again have possesion of it has all and i mean all spec measurements ect of about every v8 piston in the known galaxy. Hence my earlier reference of hugging . Because there is indeed some strange stuff going on out there

TomZ 03-21-2015 01:16 AM

Well, I got into a whole bunch of ring catalogs. And they reference both shallow and standard rings across the line of 454 engines. It's a crap shoot.

The pistons I have were only available in later engines. Somewhere GM made a change. Oh well, my issue to deal with.

The expanders are the issue. I measured the oil rings. They're exactly the same.
Perhaps I can reuse the expanders and go from there. I'll do a drop test in the morning to see if they work.


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