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JMPH 04-16-2015 07:12 PM

600sci cam good for a 502 carbureted
 
Hi guys
What are the cam spec on a 600sci ? I have a couple laying around and would it be good for a carbureted engine , we want to produce around 600 hp.
We have Brodex heads 121cc and 320, 502 with a 60 over piston with a .125 dome ,strip dominator intake and a 850 Holley.
Any help will be appreciated .
Joe

sutphen 30 04-16-2015 08:09 PM

not w/ that cam,,its tiny and week,be nice in a truck motor.heres what I found searching,and Dustin Whipple ansered you.:D

the cam specs

Duration 212/226
Lift .542/.587
LC 117.5

getrdunn 04-16-2015 08:15 PM

Ya I think they used them in the 575 as well and a few others. Decent blower cam however not what your looking for. What do you plan on ending up with for compression? Also ported or stock?

dereknkathy 04-16-2015 08:29 PM

forced induction wants a very different cam profile than NA. much tamer. if you have any kind of overlap, you are just blowing it out the exh valves before they close...

SB 04-16-2015 08:37 PM

Than NA street or race car. Obviously don't want any 104-108LSA's on a SC, but you won't be using that on a marine I/O wet exhaust nor without a crash box.

Your statement has a tiny bit of truth too it, but by how it reads not much.

sutphen 30 04-16-2015 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by dereknkathy (Post 4293075)
forced induction wants a very different cam profile than NA. much tamer. if you have and kind of overlap, you are just blowing it out the exh valves before they close...

no way,,only difference and its small would be the overlap and even that can be close to the same.case in point,hp500efi cam is the same as the 700sci

getrdunn 04-16-2015 09:36 PM

Kinda like the 525 sc is 454 420 hp cam if I'm not mistaking. I get what dnk is saying though.

phragle 04-17-2015 05:27 AM

So since Im using a hp500efi cam on my na build, I could eventually slap on a blower and be rockin!!!!

4bus 04-17-2015 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4293068)
Ya I think they used them in the 575 as well and a few others. Decent blower cam however not what your looking for. What do you plan on ending up with for compression? Also ported or stock?

The 575 was a flat tappet cam that would make about 400 hp in na form, not mercs best work

4bus 04-17-2015 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4293090)
no way,,only difference and its small would be the overlap and even that can be close to the same.case in point,hp500efi cam is the same as the 700sci

I think he was referencing optimal or ideal. Using Mercs stock cam choice as a reference doesn't mean it's right. They have a history of using what is already in their possession, and utilizing certain cams to keep HP down in order to place the engine in a market segment. The 700 sci can easily become a 800+ hp reliable monster with cam and boost changes.

SB 04-17-2015 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 4293166)
utilizing certain cams to keep HP down in order to place the engine in a market segment.

Bingo.

MILD THUNDER 04-17-2015 06:29 AM

Wow, that 600sci cam is pretty lame if those specs are correct.

You will find that not all supercharger cams are ground on the same principles. While yes, wide lobe separations are popular, usually the best choice for most marine supercharged setups, their are circumstances were LSA's of 110 may be chosen, and make more power. Thats usually when the compressor can afford to throw away a little bit of boost. Its not what you'd want for a marine deal with a little 177/250 blower, or with wet exhaust. Also, is there something to a little extra overlap with high boost, to help blow a little fresh air across the exhaust valve to help aid in ex valve cooling?

Besides overlap, generally, you also want an exhaust lobe that stays open for a longer duration. You are packing a substantially larger amount of air in the cylinder with forced induction, and it needs some extra time to get out, to help evacuate the cylinder.

There are certain cams that worked great in N/A as well as supercharged. The 525EFI cam, crane 741 cam, etc.

sutphen 30 04-17-2015 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4293163)
So since Im using a hp500efi cam on my na build, I could eventually slap on a blower and be rockin!!!!

Easy 700hp if you keep comp under or round 9-1

JMPH 04-17-2015 07:07 AM

If I read it correctly , 700sci and the 500 efi are the same cams? What kind of hp would I have to go na with the 700sci cam?
Oh I'm running dry exhaust.
What to,you guy think the right cams is to get 600 na?

Unlimited jd 04-17-2015 07:33 AM

Why not just buy a cam for your application?

getrdunn 04-17-2015 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4293163)
So since Im using a hp500efi cam on my na build, I could eventually slap on a blower and be rockin!!!!

In a nutshell yes.

JMPH 04-17-2015 08:16 AM

If it takes that I will , I have a couple 600 and 1-700 sci cams laying around , I want to use them if I can.
It's my sons boat and I'm trying to get it done for the least amount of money.

JMPH 04-17-2015 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4293225)
In a nutshell yes.

What kind of power ?

Unlimited jd 04-17-2015 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by JMPH (Post 4293228)
If it takes that I will , I have a couple 600 and 1-700 sci cams laying around , I want to use them if I can.
It's my sons boat and I'm trying to get it done for the least amount of money.

Got it, thought you were going to go looking for the cams

MILD THUNDER 04-17-2015 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by JMPH (Post 4293230)
What kind of power ?

IMO, the the 600sci and 700sci cams , are too light for a 516ci, brodix headed deal. Keep in mind max rpm on a 500EFI, was 5200ish.

The 600sci, 575sci, 700sci, were great engines and all, but certainly not dishing out big power numbers. 600hp from a blown 502 is actually kind of embarrassing.

You got 516 cubes, you got brodix heads , you got dry exhaust. Give them a cam they deserve .

JMPH 04-17-2015 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4293245)
IMO, the the 600sci and 700sci cams , are too light for a 516ci, brodix headed deal. Keep in mind max rpm on a 500EFI, was 5200ish.

The 600sci, 575sci, 700sci, were great engines and all, but certainly not dishing out big power numbers. 600hp from a blown 502 is actually kind of embarrassing.

You got 516 cubes, you got brodix heads , you got dry exhaust. Give them a cam they deserve .

okay , I will shop for a cam, any ideas with what you mentioned?

MER Performance 04-17-2015 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by JMPH (Post 4293280)
okay , I will shop for a cam, any ideas with what you mentioned?

I"m not a cam expert, I have always left that up to everyday professionals. I would call Bob @ Marine Kinetics. If you call him; have your head part# along with flow #s, compression ratio, exhaust type, and rpm window.

Budman II 04-17-2015 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4293065)
not w/ that cam,,its tiny and week,be nice in a truck motor.heres what I found searching,and Dustin Whipple ansered you.:D

the cam specs

Duration 212/226
Lift .542/.587
LC 117.5

What is the LSA number for this cam?

JMPH 04-17-2015 11:26 AM

600sci
the numbers are hard to see at the back 842264
stamped on the lobes 1029 011627

rmbuilder 04-17-2015 12:14 PM

600sci
 
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JMPH 04-18-2015 04:15 AM

Oh, I thought you meant the cam #

tripps 03-10-2024 03:28 PM

Cam
 

Originally Posted by SB (Post 4293170)
Bingo.

Sounds like i t would be good in mild 502 single 4 cmi e x in a single e ngine 30 ft boat


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