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Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4314923)
Wasn't commandersander outed as a liar selling a new part that wasn't ? Or do I have the wrong guy ?
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Originally Posted by dsmawd350
(Post 4314899)
Pm commandersander on here if I'm a liar. I bought the motors from him. And he told me the blowers were brand new beside basically dyno time and made 653hp on 5psi I believe. It pushed my boat to 94.8 on GPS and I literally only ran it for maybe 15 hrs.
Not trying to point fingers or start a flame war, but this hasn't been the best experience. I seriously doubt that this setup was brand new when you got it. Anyway, I'll make it all work. |
So I listened to the video of the engine running on the dyno, and though we couldn't hear it in the control room, the mic on my phone picked up a lot of belt squeal once hard on it. It's hard to hear, but definitely there. I didn't have the blower off last night (dead tired), but did notice that the belt was starting to come apart in the center ribs (glad I ordered a brand new one from Bando).
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Originally Posted by TomZ
(Post 4315274)
So I listened to the video of the engine running on the dyno, and though we couldn't hear it in the control room, the mic on my phone picked up a lot of belt squeal once hard on it. It's hard to hear, but definitely there. I didn't have the blower off last night (dead tired), but did notice that the belt was starting to come apart in the center ribs (glad I ordered a brand new one from Bando).
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In this case, all 100 lbs of blower and intake/carbs were thrown into a box, taped shut, sent. The box showed up with parts of the blower sticking out of it. UPS wouldn't even talk to me.
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Originally Posted by TomZ
(Post 4315288)
In this case, all 100 lbs of blower and intake/carbs were thrown into a box, taped shut, sent. The box showed up with parts of the blower sticking out of it. UPS wouldn't even talk to me.
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4315293)
Well the stuff shouldn't be thrown in the box but UPS shouldn't throw the boxes around either and believe me that's all they do is throw the stuff.
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Originally Posted by TomZ
(Post 4315274)
So I listened to the video of the engine running on the dyno, and though we couldn't hear it in the control room, the mic on my phone picked up a lot of belt squeal once hard on it. It's hard to hear, but definitely there. I didn't have the blower off last night (dead tired), but did notice that the belt was starting to come apart in the center ribs (glad I ordered a brand new one from Bando).
I'd still pull the blower and take a look at the clearances |
Yep. I plan to pull it anyway so that I can get the engine back in the boat. There isn't enough clearance to get it in and out fully dressed.
The overall thought here is that we're dealing with a tired blower (only making 5 lbs of boost at 100% overdriven on a 502 is a definitely a clue), and a bad belt. She'll still run well for the season, and I'll tackle the rest after the season is finished. |
Originally Posted by 260Velocity
(Post 4314382)
Hi. I am a new member here at OSO. I have been reading threads for years. Anyway, I just wanted to put my experience in this thread. I had a 509 with 320 pro topline heads with JE 8.5-1 comp and crane hyd roller. I had a 250 charger with no intercooler and small pulley. It made 8-9 pounds at 5200 with a 26 4blade in my260 velocity. Roughly 650. Hp.
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Tired blower... this pisses me off.
Checked the clearances: .012 toward the rear of the case, .014 toward the front. Well, I'm not sacrificing my summer to wait on my blower to be rebuilt, but at least I now know why this thing isn't building the boost that was expected. |
No surprise after those boost numbers on your setup. That sucks tom .
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Originally Posted by TomZ
(Post 4315807)
Tired blower... this pisses me off.
Checked the clearances: .012 toward the rear of the case, .014 toward the front. Well, I'm not sacrificing my summer to wait on my blower to be rebuilt, but at least I now know why this thing isn't building the boost that was expected. I would like to check my 250 tonight. |
Normal is about .004-.006 on a used 250 with some time on it.
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4315816)
Normal is about .004-.006 on a used 250 with some time on it.
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Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4314923)
Wasn't commandersander outed as a liar selling a new part that wasn't ? Or do I have the wrong guy ?
Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4314972)
I think he was the one complaining about PayPal...
Yup. I remembered right. Click Here: http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/b...l-rip-off.html |
Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4315825)
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250 clearance
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4315816)
Normal is about .004-.006 on a used 250 with some time on it.
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Just keep in mind that boost PSI is a reference of airflow restriction. With your blower not getting hot at all,(blower not working very hard) then it could possibly be that your camshaft and head flow is working really well and thus your boost psi. reading is low.
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Originally Posted by Fountainfunatic
(Post 4316485)
Just keep in mind that boost PSI is a reference of airflow restriction. With your blower not getting hot at all,(blower not working very hard) then it could possibly be that your camshaft and head flow is working really well and thus your boost psi. reading is low.
Just a thought. |
Originally Posted by TomZ
(Post 4316491)
Appreciate it, but see the post above about the clearances being way out of spec. My understanding is that anything over .008 needs servicing. There's no way this blower will build strong boost until its serviced.
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Tom, can you get it rebuilt asap and re dyno? That would be cool. :D
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Engine goes in Saturday. I have a friend of a friend that works on big diesels. I'm told that he may be able to get the blower done at his shop, quickly.
Dyno'ing again... I'm going to run it for now, but I'll probably pull it at the end of the season and hit it again. |
Got the blower to the shop today... .016 clearance between the strips and the case. Yep, it was far from being "recently rebuilt."
The good news is that it'll be ready in a couple of weeks (unless some other issue pops up with this blower). |
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