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snapmorgan 06-09-2015 08:21 PM

Questions about big power
 
Hypothetical situation here. I am always shopping and would like to know the answer to this question;

Lets say you have a 35' boat with a pair of 600s in it and you want to cruise down the lake for 50 miles at 70mph. Now lets say we have that same boat with a pair of 1100s in it and we want to do the same thing. Will the 1100 boat use more fuel? Less fuel? About the same? Might make a difference in my next purchase. Thanks

hogie roll 06-09-2015 08:25 PM

If you knew the bfsc at the respective engine speeds that they would be turning, we would have your answer. Otherwise it's impossible to know based on your inputs.

seafordguy 06-09-2015 08:30 PM

My take would be if you're AT ALL worried about fuel consumption than you have no business buying a boat with 1100's in it.....

dereknkathy 06-09-2015 08:37 PM

flip side of that statement; if you can afford a boat with 1100's, and buy it, you have a duty to burn as much fuel as possible...

SB 06-09-2015 08:56 PM

The 600 can be N/A and the 1100 is a safe assumption positive supercharger ?

The 1100 will be heavier than the 600, and the PD SC takes power to turn.

The 1100's will swing more propand use less gear ratio. Those will take more hp.

So....just breaking the surface with the subject, the 1100 will consume more fuel..everything else being equal.

JRider 06-09-2015 09:13 PM

Fuel is the least of my worries when I hit the happy stick/s

Budman II 06-09-2015 09:47 PM

I guess you could argue that you would be able to run with less throttle on the boat with 1100's, but we both know that less throttle is not in the cards if you have something like that. Let's put it this way - if you had a 12 inch schlong, would you only use 6 inches of it? :D

But seriously, it takes a certain amount of power to do the work of moving that boat x miles at a particular speed. So it takes a certain amount of fuel to do it. It all comes down to which rig is running most efficiently at the RPM level it takes to get the work done.

SB 06-09-2015 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by Budman II (Post 4315501)
Let's put it this way - if you had a 12 inch schlong, would you only use 6 inches of it? :D

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Sometimes I have to use less. But this isn't the place to discuss this.

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Kelly O 06-10-2015 05:43 AM

Your cruise speed with the 1100's would be much higher than same boat with 600's. You should not compare the two hp levels at the same speed, because the efficiency only comes from getting more boat up out of the water at a higher cruise speed.

So the 1100hp version could cruise at 80+ mph without making any boost and have less wetted surface friction to overcome at the higher cruise speed. Your gallons per hour may be higher than the 600hp package, but your miles per gallon may in fact be higher with the 1100hp package- until you put the motors into boost.

Budman II 06-10-2015 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4315508)
Sometimes I have to use less. But this isn't the place to discuss this.

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You sure about that, SB? Seems like we have a dik-measuring contest about every other day on this site lately! :evilb:

snapmorgan 06-10-2015 06:37 PM

So 1100's it is. Thanks for the replies

cigrocket 06-10-2015 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by snapmorgan (Post 4315933)
So 1100's it is. Thanks for the replies

Of course one of those packages should be hooked up to #6 Drives and the other could have XRs. Big difference in initial cost, fuel is the cheap part. In my old Top Gun that I had, the 875HP weren't bad on fuel until the boost gauge started to move, then the gas gauge had a Vacuum effect. lol

hogie roll 06-10-2015 07:29 PM

The fuel cost is probably negligible compared to engines and drives.

snapmorgan 06-10-2015 08:35 PM

Yep, 1100 boat has 6's

Budman II 06-10-2015 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by snapmorgan (Post 4315981)
Yep, 1100 boat has 6's

Oops - saw that you already have your Advantage up for sale - did you sell it yet?

mike tkach 06-10-2015 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by snapmorgan (Post 4315981)
Yep, 1100 boat has 6's

welcome to the big leauges!

1MOSES1 06-10-2015 09:12 PM

Shocked no one brought up carb vs efi...guessing the 1100's are carbed where as fuel efficiency goes way down compared to an EFI setup with the 600's. Think you'll be shocked how thirsty carbed 1100's are even without the boost.

Griff 06-11-2015 01:21 AM

Hmmmmmm???????

There are 2 stiletto's for sale. One with 650's and one with 1100's:lolhit:

253 06-11-2015 01:39 PM

Yep,, the 1100's will burn more fuel than the 600's, heavier engines w weight of the blowers,, heavier #6 drives that require more power to run the same speed compared to XR'S..
Maybe I'm wrong but do the #6's create more drag in the water, less aeordynamic.? than XR's

Your Advantage Mid Cabin you have for sale is in Mint Cond. ,I have seen it.

snapmorgan 06-11-2015 05:17 PM

I have not been actively trying to sell it, but I think I will start.

What is a Stiletto? wink wink

Griff 06-12-2015 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by 253 (Post 4316334)
Yep,, the 1100's will burn more fuel than the 600's, heavier engines w weight of the blowers,, heavier #6 drives that require more power to run the same speed compared to XR'S..
Maybe I'm wrong but do the #6's create more drag in the water, less aeordynamic.? than XR's

Your Advantage Mid Cabin you have for sale is in Mint Cond. ,I have seen it.

SSM 6's are dry sumped and don't take that much hp to spin. 6's are more hydrodynamic than XR's.

I think the biggest consideration between the 2 should be repair/maint costs.
If an 1100hp/SSM6 boat has a problem and it could easily be a 30k+ problem.

mike tkach 06-12-2015 09:21 AM

not all #6 drives are dry sumped.

endeavor1 06-12-2015 10:14 AM

Off topic.... We're the #7 SSM wet or dry?


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