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Old 07-02-2015, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Full Force
I have more then that in parts alone.... How can that be?

I am not trying to start a mess just curious when the guy on FB was arguing the quality and price and has yet to use the product, I know what I spent with quality parts and it exceeds that as built price...and I got some good pricing
Different parts manufacturers have different levels of "buy in". The more you spend to become a dealer the better your pricing will be. Here is an example of mark-up. A Brodix Aluminum BBC block on Summit retails around $5,500 my buddy has been a Brodix dealer for a long time and is Master WD with Brodix his cost on the same block Summit sells for $5,500 is $3,600. When he and I were pretty tight he gave me his cost on everything. $800 Scat crank was $600. $900 Prosystems carb was $625. The Jesel lifters I bought for my new build retailed just under $1700 I payed $1253. When you start saving $300 here $400 there it adds up quick. There are also situations where builders do a large purchase and they'll buy 10 or 20 blocks at a time. This really drives the price down. Average WD cost on a Dart block is $1700 and some change. Buy 10-20 and the price drops more.

I'll add this. To be a Hardin Marine dealer you only have to spend $2000 per year. There prices drop drastically with dealer pricing also. It's easy to drop $2000 in marine parts in a year so why not?

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Seems reviews are mixed but you`d think they would have to be somewhat legit if Summit carries em.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...ngines+reviews
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
Different parts manufacturers have different levels of "buy in". The more you spend to become a dealer the better your pricing will be. Here is an example of mark-up. A Brodix Aluminum BBC block on Summit retails around $5,500 my buddy has been a Brodix dealer for a long time and is Master WD with Brodix his cost on the same block Summit sells for $5,500 is $3,600. When he and I were pretty tight he gave me his cost on everything. $800 Scat crank was $600. $900 Prosystems carb was $625. The Jesel lifters I bought for my new build retailed just under $1700 I payed $1253. When you start saving $300 here $400 there it adds up quick. There are also situations where builders do a large purchase and they'll buy 10 or 20 blocks at a time. This really drives the price down. Average WD cost on a Dart block is $1700 and some change. Buy 10-20 and the price drops more.

I'll add this. To be a Hardin Marine dealer you only have to spend $2000 per year. There prices drop drastically with dealer pricing also. It's easy to drop $2000 in marine parts in a year so why not?
i get how pricing works but you and I know that no name brands listed are no name brand parts... They would brag if there was good parts there...

I am not saying it's all junk if any at all, I just don't see a marine 800 plus hp engine being a good build for 12,000.00 that's all...
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I would agree. Parts are by far the most expensive. Like in our industry, could be 75% or more cost of the job when compared to labor and other services. If you can drive that cost down, it makes a huge impact. But, I cannot see trimming that much fat. At a minimum, that's half what they should cost.
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
Seems reviews are mixed but you`d think they would have to be somewhat legit if Summit carries em.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...ngines+reviews
Means nothing.

A lot of 'good name' parts stores carry a lot of junk now too.....'trusted brand' labels don't mean a whole lot anymore.

Country is going thru the schitter.

I hope I am alive when it rebounds.
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I hope I am alive when it rebounds.
Me too, but it'll probably take another 25-30 years for that to happen.
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Originally Posted by frickstyle
Me too, but it'll probably take another 25-30 years for that to happen.
In 25-30 years it's gonna be the United States of China. Oh wait a minute, it already is.
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You got it, and no more oil to burn in our tanks. We'll have AMG Cigs though....
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Has anyone called them and asked for a part list?
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Me too, but it'll probably take another 25-30 years for that to happen.
will we still be a country?
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