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konst406 08-18-2015 11:18 AM

2001 EFI 260 Mercs---- Thinking of procharging. Pros and Cons requested??
 
I have and 01 Sea Ray 280 Sun Sport with twin 5.7 260 EFI motors with Bravo Drives. Motors are stock at this time. Qustions I have:

1. What kind of longevity will I get out of the motors once boosted? They have 200 HRS on them now.
2. Should I just leave them alone and build fresh motors that are built for boost?
3. Should I go with a set of strong 383 motors and forget the boost? (seen some 425-475 HP motors) Not boosted....

The boat had optional 496 (425HP) mags when new so I know the boat can handle it and achieves close to 62-65 MPH with them factory. Currently I have had a top speed of 54 MPH. Pretty good for what it is. 9'6 wide 28 foot boat. I believe it weighs around 8000lbs.

Thanks in advance for any knowledge.

Mike

GPM 08-18-2015 01:40 PM

Boost is great but I don't think your 260s were built for it. Motor wise, it all depends on how fast you want to go, blown or N/A, how much money do you want to spend. Good running motors will need a good fuel system, probably some kind of headers, at some speed external steering. And when it's running really good you may start breaking drives.

SB 08-18-2015 01:56 PM

I'm very into small blocks, but in cases like this, I would say big blocks are your answer. 8.1 take outs maybe..too.

konst406 08-18-2015 01:59 PM

I would be very happy with mid 60s. It's not a go fast but would like a little more.

konst406 08-18-2015 02:00 PM

With them already EFI motors could I not just put a better fuel pump in the tank?

VoodooRob 08-18-2015 02:19 PM

From what your describing I agree with SB and say go the 496 HO take out route. You could have the boat as fast as you wanted it in a short amount of time and best of all it would be stock and an easier sell when comes time.

konst406 08-18-2015 02:30 PM

Thanks for the ideas guys, I have learned to ask a lot of question before digging into these little projects.

SB 08-18-2015 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by konst406 (Post 4344350)
With them already EFI motors could I not just put a better fuel pump in the tank?

They are not like cars. The Merc/Volvo marine engines have the pumps external of the tank and rigged to the motor.

konst406 08-18-2015 02:35 PM

Did not know that. This is my first fuel injected boat and I have not really messed around with anything yet.

Knot 4 Me 08-18-2015 02:41 PM

The long-blocks between the 5.7L (250 HP), 5.7L EFI (260 HP), and 350 MAG MPI were identical. Since the ECM has to be re-flashed anyway, I wonder if these could be made to work?

http://whipplesuperchargers.com/inde...product_id=143

GPM 08-18-2015 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4344365)
The long-blocks between the 5.7L (250 HP), 5.7L EFI (260 HP), and 350 MAG MPI were identical. Since the ECM has to be re-flashed anyway, I wonder if these could be made to work?

http://whipplesuperchargers.com/inde...product_id=143

I do believe the 250 hp, 260 hp motors have cast cranks, cheap rods and cast pistons, small cam and crappy heads, the 350 mag is forged crank and pistons, a little better cam, better rods and heads, I could be wrong. The 383 with better exhaust, larger injectors, possibly a fuel pump and a reflash might be your best bet.

Blueabyss 08-18-2015 05:22 PM

I think you would be fine with a set of 383's.. Not 475 hp but more like 400 hp. That way they wont be prone to reversion and prob get you to mid to upper 60's. Personally I have given up on big blocks to go fast. Have had them all 7.4 mpi to 496ho's. I just cant run the crap out of the big blocks and have them last like I can the small blocks. I also think supercharging them is just asking for problems. Plus if you explode a 383 NA, which I have never done, it will be much cheaper to replace. What drives do you have?

Chris

Baja Rooster 08-18-2015 10:24 PM

In my experience, if you enjoy working on boat motors then start playing with hop ups, but if you actually enjoy boating keep everything as stock as possible.

The 383s will at least let you keep your stock rigging.

BUP 08-19-2015 12:15 AM

no offense you are completely wasting your time with powering up your small blocks plus a Sea Ray hull is more a pleasure boat and ride not even close to a speed boat or performance ride. If anything you wanted to change engines I would go with something like what Volvo Penta has in the line up of the 6.0 LS version. they have 350 hp - 380 hp and a 420 hp LS 6.0.

Volvo's 6.0 LS 420 hp tested against the 496 HO and beat it everytime in 2 exact Formula boat models comparison across the board in all water testing. The 6.0 is 300 pounds lighter per engine than the big blocks as well. I would look into LS swap outs if you are really looking to completely change your engines out and do a complete drop in.

sunbather1969 08-19-2015 01:36 AM

Sell this and buy a new boat from my experience

Knot 4 Me 08-19-2015 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by GPM (Post 4344396)
I do believe the 250 hp, 260 hp motors have cast cranks, cheap rods and cast pistons, small cam and crappy heads, the 350 mag is forged crank and pistons, a little better cam, better rods and heads, I could be wrong. The 383 with better exhaust, larger injectors, possibly a fuel pump and a reflash might be your best bet.

Pretty sure the induction systems are the only differences. I ordered a new boat in '99 and wanted to know the differences between the three versions of that motor at the time. Long blocks were all the same all the way down to the camshaft. Which really surprised me. If nothing else I would have thought the 350 MAG had a little bit better cam.

Budman II 08-19-2015 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Baja Rooster (Post 4344592)
In my experience, if you enjoy working on boat motors then start playing with hop ups, but if you actually enjoy boating keep everything as stock as possible.

The 383s will at least let you keep your stock rigging.

Agree 100%!! Once you step onto that slippery slope of modifying your stock power, you better enjoy turning wrenches because you will probably be doing it on a regular basis. Not to mention that nagging worry in the back or your mind that something - motor, drive, etc. - is going to let go and ruin your weekend every time you go out. There is a lot to be said for having a turn-key boat that you can take out and run around on with the family, and settle into a cove with a cold brew and no worries. If you have the disposable income and the inclination to tinker with it a lot, then go for it.

CIG3 08-19-2015 09:11 AM

Check out the Ilmor stuff. Plug and play LS power is the way to go in my opinion

http://www.ilmor.com/en/marine/recre...l/MV8-62L.aspx

Budman II 08-19-2015 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by CIG3 (Post 4344717)
Check out the Ilmor stuff. Plug and play LS power is the way to go in my opinion

http://www.ilmor.com/en/marine/recre...l/MV8-62L.aspx

So how much do one of these 570HP bad boys run? (probably more than my first house)

http://www.ilmor.com/en/marine/recre...l/MV8-570.aspx

TooLateVTEC 08-19-2015 05:04 PM

With the money you're gonna end up spending trying to get this pig to run faster, you could buy a go fast boat that already runs 60+.

Then you would have one boat to make the wife happy and one to piss her off :boat:


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