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SB 10-07-2015 04:07 PM

Well, best way is to test it....Which i should of, but at the time, I was testing more things than i should have ...lol.

Get the dyno set up. Get a big reservoir.....test on 1st engine w/Bravo pump...and then build from there.

Schit, I have many pick up trucks come in here with bedliners that won't let water out with the tailgate up. Fill one of those suckers and have at it....to test of course....LOL.

MILD THUNDER 10-07-2015 04:08 PM

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I've had a hose come off my cooler right after the pump at 70mph. Within seconds, I had a bilge full of water. The first thing I noticed, before even the engine temp climbed, was my bilge pump LED light come on while running.

http://www.pumpagents.com/pdf/Jabsco...43210-0001.pdf

MILD THUNDER 10-07-2015 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4363486)
and do not forget especially with Merc is pulley size & ratio along with belt set ups and pump speed.

there is no way a stock bravo pump is going to pump a 100 gallons per min NO WAY IN THE WORLD and I doubt a gas size crank mounted pump will either that is NOT custom made. You would have to spin that crank mount so fast to get that kind of water volume output ( I am talking about 100 gallons of water output completely discharged) . It can not even completely run thru your engine that fast of a 100 gallons of water per minute. No way you could ever pass that much volume of water thru a t stat alone along with exhaust water jackets especially the restricted riser gaskets.

It was a typo. I meant to say those big numbers, in Gallons per hour, not per minute. Obviously, per minute, would be ridiculous.

F-2 Speedy 10-07-2015 04:12 PM

When Brad dyno'd my engines at Smith Power, he had a primary and secondary pump, the primary was good to about 1500 revs any more and it would start collapsing the hose so the secondary pump would be turned on when power pull's were to be made, 1'1/4 hose hooked directly to the sea pump, its amazing how much water that little impeller will move, congrats Smitty I sold your boat, haha

BUP 10-07-2015 04:16 PM

I know Joe as I am saying in general for the marine gas engine side that they will not even pump 100 gallons per minute. Custom made ones possible but I have never seen it and would have to see with my own eyes. Not directing that post at you.

BUP 10-07-2015 04:29 PM

off the top of my head for Mercruiser black engine side OEM stock

4000 rpms engine speed
bravo apps and water inlet flowed thru the outdrive

bare min water pressure at 4000 rpms for the 4.3 and ALL smallblocks closed cooled apps is 20 psi again bravo apps and seawater cooled apps water pressure 8.5 psi for the 4.3 L and 10 psi for the 5.0L and 11 psi for the 5.7 and 6.2 L. Minimum water flow volume at 4000 rpms 28 gallons per minute for closed cooled for these apps for these closed cooled apps.

Seawater cooled is 13 gallons per min water volume flowed for the 4.3L then 15 gallons for the 5.0L and then 17 gallons for the 5.7 & 6.2 - again this for the min water pressure readings and min water flow volumes @ 4000 rpms for the bravo with these apps installed.

the 496 - 8.1 L is of course closed cooled needs a min of 11 psi water pressure at 4000 rpms and bare min of 20 gallons volume of water flowed per minute. Only 20 gallons for this app but keep in mind that the bare min at bare min of 11 psi for the 496 Mercruiser.

Unlimited jd 10-07-2015 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Wally (Post 4363480)
just did a quick search of fire trucks too....they are running a 2.5" line at 150 psi and discharging a min of 250gpm...but i saw another posting where the pumps on these trucks are now in the 1500-2000 gpm range!! wow!

the output gpm will all depend on how much pressure the pump can make and how much friction its fighting against with th e length of line...the size of the line...any fittings, discharge nozzle size etc...

A standard fire ground stream is a 2 1/2" line 200' long, flowing through a 1 1/8" nozzle bore 250 Gpm @ 80 psi. The trucks pump is typically 1250 Gpm @ 150 psi, 885 @ 200 psi, 625 @ 250 if it is a 2 stage pump like the one I'm working on right now.

articfriends 10-07-2015 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by 33outlawsst (Post 4363494)
When Brad dyno'd my engines at Smith Power, he had a primary and secondary pump, the primary was good to about 1500 revs any more and it would start collapsing the hose so the secondary pump would be turned on when power pull's were to be made, 1'1/4 hose hooked directly to the sea pump, its amazing how much water that little impeller will move, congrats Smitty I sold your boat, haha

Glad you sold it! The first thing im dynoing after norm gets the dyno going is my 502 im building to sell my baja with. Fresh short block, mildly ported rectangle port gm heads, my modified 502 mpi intake and bored throttle body off my 540 blower motor with a hp 500 efi cam and morel lifters, i expect between 480 and 520 hp, if it makes 400 or 600 the dyno is off, i will post results. Just spoke to well driller, he says 15 gpm is easy, if we go 50 to 100 feet deeper and bigger on the pump he could get more but he claims water will be nasty and it will cost thousands more. Prob going to get a 500 gallon buffer tank then

F-2 Speedy 10-07-2015 05:01 PM

If you could some how try to capture some of the exhaust water to reuse it would cut down on you total consumption.

14 apache 10-07-2015 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 4363405)
Dynos not new, norm schenk from competition fuel systems in tuscon arizona just moved to my town and we are putting it in my shop as a partnership. I guess more than running a boat on a hose, we need to be able to run a motor at wot and not run out of water

What brand of dyno you bringing into your shop?


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