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79formula 10-16-2015 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4366793)
Imo, the 250 isnt a big enough upgrade from a 177, it is a better starting point however.

Even a 250 on a 454 making 5-6lbs of boost, will be 60+ percent overdriven, where a 177 will be 100+ percent. Imo, these small blowers work great on the street, where full throttle torque from idle to 5000 is the goal. Running 5000+ for extended periods in a boat, a larger blower like 671, 871, or 420 b&m is a better fit.

I love the idea of a 671, but they seem out of my price league. And how much taller than a 250 are they? I won't cut my hatch.

MILD THUNDER 10-16-2015 08:47 AM

Quite a bit taller. The 250 is low profile though. And would be my choice over the 177 like the guys here said

cigrocket 10-16-2015 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4366806)
Quite a bit taller. The 250 is low profile though. And would be my choice over the 177 like the guys here said

That's why I was saying the 250 over the 177. I know not much of a gain. but better. the 671 is another large upgrade cost and height wise.

Here is an old picture of my former Top Gun when I had the Chiefs. They were 671s but they were tall.

Rookie 10-16-2015 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 79formula (Post 4366698)
Is it for sale?

Yes, I was going to put them in the swap shop this week.

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wayne272 10-16-2015 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4366697)
You need this. (B&M 250)
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And 1 of these. http://www.mrcool.us/skin/frontend/d...ct-Listing.pdf
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How much did those coolers bring your oil temps down?

MILD THUNDER 10-16-2015 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by wayne272 (Post 4366979)
How much did those coolers bring your oil temps down?

Hey wayne, what would you say the cam upgrade and 177 install gained you over the stock 454s in the bullet ?

Rookie 10-16-2015 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by wayne272 (Post 4366979)
How much did those coolers bring your oil temps down?

To be honest I was running I was running 2"x4" power steering coolers on my original Merc 420's. No temperature gauges. When I re-powered to ~600HP engines I put the 3"x18" on. I have never seen temps over 180*F after the cooler delivering the oil to my bearings and I run over 5500 RPM's for miles.

Baja Rooster 10-17-2015 01:12 AM

Would putting a 250 blower on a GenV block with forged internals, aluminum heads, and 9.5:1 compression be too much? I'm just conceptually asking here as I plan out my motor. Or would you pull the pistons and lower the CR ratio?

Formula kris 242 10-17-2015 02:01 PM

Hey guys,
I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. I cant seem to start my own discussion but This one seems somewhat comparable to what I'm doing. I have a 1989 Formula 242 LS. The boat originally had the 454 magnum (365) with GIL exhaust on it. I pulled the motor this season and had it completely rebuilt. I threw a Cam in it, punched it out 30 ,,new DART heads, bigger carb ,new exhaust ,,the whole deal. It came off the dyno making 526HP with 558 ft/lb of torque.
My question for anyone out there is what I should be looking at for a prop. I had a 21 pitch Mirage plus with the original block and it ran perfect...58 mph-61mph on a good day. My motor at peak performance now turns at 5300 RPM. I have plans to change my prop but I'm wondering if a 23 mirage plus 3 blade may be a bit small. Should I be looking at a 25 pitch Mirage plus?
I'm told these old formulas like the 3 blades, but any information would be helpful.
Thanks

Baja Rooster 10-17-2015 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Formula kris 242 (Post 4367252)
Hey guys,
I'm new to the forum and this is my first post. I cant seem to start my own discussion but This one seems somewhat comparable to what I'm doing. I have a 1989 Formula 242 LS. The boat originally had the 454 magnum (365) with GIL exhaust on it. I pulled the motor this season and had it completely rebuilt. I threw a Cam in it, punched it out 30 ,,new DART heads, bigger carb ,new exhaust ,,the whole deal. It came off the dyno making 526HP with 558 ft/lb of torque.
My question for anyone out there is what I should be looking at for a prop. I had a 21 pitch Mirage plus with the original block and it ran perfect...58 mph-61mph on a good day. My motor at peak performance now turns at 5300 RPM. I have plans to change my prop but I'm wondering if a 23 mirage plus 3 blade may be a bit small. Should I be looking at a 25 pitch Mirage plus?
I'm told these old formulas like the 3 blades, but any information would be helpful.
Thanks

The 25p Mirage+ is a monster to spin. Many folks use a Mirage+ 23p and have it tuned with a bit more cup to a 24p. But to get you in the ballpark BBlades rents props for trying out for $50. You can rent the 25p and if the motor or boat struggles with it then find a 23p and have it tuned.


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