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TROR 11-01-2015 09:41 PM

500 EFI fuel pump oil?
 
Ok, I read in my factory manual that upon doing routine maintenance to check the fluid in the fuel pump/sea pump assembly, after changing the engine oil, I checked it ( little screw on side of housing), there seems to be oil/fuel in both and over full. Obviously I need to replace both mechanical fuel pumps, but I have had no issues with drivability. Anyone have issues or know about this?

Griff 11-02-2015 12:56 AM

That is pretty normal to have some fuel seep into the lube, especially if it hasn't been changed for several years.
Just drain and change the lube. Use Merc HP drive lube.

apollard 11-02-2015 08:52 AM

Ditto. All fuel pump diaphragms leak small amounts of fuel. That is why the oil needs to be changed yearly.

Revelocity 11-02-2015 09:35 AM

I'd check fluid level shortly after you replaced the fluid to assure your diaphragms aren't bad. The Mercury diaphragms don't hold up well to ethanol fuel and unfortunately fail prematurely. Be sure to check replacement fuel pumps as well as I've had to return 2 or 3 due to immediate leakage! The bad diaphragms can result in vapor lock in the 500 EFI also.

thirdchildhood 11-02-2015 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4371850)
That is pretty normal to have some fuel seep into the lube, especially if it hasn't been changed for several years.
Just drain and change the lube. Use Merc HP drive lube.


Originally Posted by apollard (Post 4371900)
Ditto. All fuel pump diaphragms leak small amounts of fuel. That is why the oil needs to be changed yearly.

Yep.

TROR 11-06-2015 09:16 AM

Thanks for the info ! I will change it out and monitor it.

1989mach1 11-06-2015 10:10 AM

Do all 500efis have this setup. I was not aware of this.

VoodooRob 11-06-2015 10:43 AM

Yes, 500 and 525 EFI. Always change the lube when changing oil, it only takes a few minutes with a mity-vac. As a matter of course I change impeller, impeller housing, and change oil in pump when doing an oil change.

JaayTeee 11-06-2015 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by 1989mach1 (Post 4373353)
Do all 500efis have this setup. I was not aware of this.

Some of the very first 500efi's 99-00 didn't have them.

Pwraddr 11-06-2015 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by VoodooRob (Post 4373370)
As a matter of course I change impeller, impeller housing, and change oil in pump when doing an oil change.

Curious how often you change your oil.

VoodooRob 11-06-2015 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Pwraddr (Post 4373468)
Curious how often you change your oil.

Most I let it go is 25 hrs, a full season for us. If doing more hrs. I'll change mid-season. Same goes for the drives.

VoodooRob 11-06-2015 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by JaayTeee (Post 4373402)
Some of the very first 500efi's 99-00 didn't have them.

Didn't know the early 500 EFI was set-up like that, good to know for reference. Good catch.

1989mach1 11-06-2015 08:43 PM

I will have to look tomorrow when I get to my boat.

billpor930 11-07-2015 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by VoodooRob (Post 4373370)
Yes, 500 and 525 EFI. Always change the lube when changing oil, it only takes a few minutes with a mity-vac. As a matter of course I change impeller, impeller housing, and change oil in pump when doing an oil change.

Actually, the earlier 500 efi's don't have this mechanical fuel pump which includes those in my 2000 Formula. My setup has worked fine as I've experienced no vapor locking problems. This is likely due to my boating area not being as hot as inland lake boating.

1989mach1 11-09-2015 05:53 PM

I looked at my motors over the weekend and I do not have that kind of pumps.

1989mach1 11-09-2015 05:55 PM

Is there a big difference between the two ways?

TROR 11-18-2015 10:09 PM

Ok, do you have to pull the fuel pump off to change the oil? I have a vac, but can't get anything in the hole to suck it out. Can't believe there's no drain hole.

TROR 11-18-2015 11:22 PM

Ok, made me a little tube out of a chunk of steel brake line. Just wondering how y'all do it.

Griff 11-19-2015 01:40 AM

You can only get about half the lube out with suction through the fill hole.

thirdchildhood 11-19-2015 04:59 AM

I pull the whole assembly off every fall during winterizing and it gets a new impeller and new oil. There is always some gas in the oil.

TROR 11-19-2015 04:14 PM

Yea, I changed the impellers, then noticed it. I will definitely pull them all the way next time. You got to be a contortionist to work on the starboard side anyway, just pull em and just go through them.


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