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mike tkach 12-07-2015 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4383065)
That's what a 1075sc does and I think its a great idea less area for the piston to absorb heat.

2 ways of looking at that,some say it,s more area to disipate heat.

14 apache 12-07-2015 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4383145)
2 ways of looking at that,some say it,s more area to disipate heat.

Also going to help lifting the ring land by the intake valve. Almost no valve notch.

MILD THUNDER 12-07-2015 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4383152)
Also going to help lifting the ring land by the intake valve. Almost no valve notch.


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4383065)
That's what a 1075sc does and I think its a great idea less area for the piston to absorb heat.

I think you are talking about a full dish, VS a D Shaped cup like icdedpple has? 1075 merc uses a full dish I wanna say, with the piston quite a way down in the hole too.

Aftermarket flat top pistons have a good sized valve notch usually.

Black Baja 12-07-2015 07:02 PM

Send the head to Diamond. They will make a piston with a dish that mirrors the combustion chamber. Tell them you want a 2degree slant towards the exhaust valve.

14 apache 12-07-2015 07:16 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Flat top in a 1075sci in the hole a bunch if anyone wants the CH I will measure it.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]548444[/ATTACH]

MILD THUNDER 12-07-2015 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4383174)
Flat top in a 1075sci in the hole a bunch if anyone wants the CH I will measure it.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]548444[/ATTACH]

Looks like a flat top from here! Thats a small valve relief for sure, compared to most shelf JE, CP, etc

14 apache 12-07-2015 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4383181)
Looks like a flat top from here! Thats a small valve relief for sure, compared to most shelf JE, CP, etc

Yep pretty flat around .125 ish deep valve notch just a guess. Mercury put a lot of R&D into it pretty stout around the notch.

mike tkach 12-07-2015 08:47 PM

i guess you don,t need a deep valve relief if the piston is far enough away from the valve.

ICDEDPPL 12-07-2015 10:00 PM

Update from High Flow Heads.

1. Some of my valve stems are worn, most likely from contaminated oil (blowby) , some of them you can feel the edge with finger nail.
2. Good thing for aftermarket Iron heads, Aluminum would have been damaged from the amount of heat I had .
3. 1 Super alloy Ferrea valve is cracked and tuliped (cylinder with busted plug)
4. Need 11 exhaust valves and 8 intake.
5. (4) exhaust valves had to be tapped out.
6. Springs pressures same as new. (spring oilers helped?)
7. Valve train otherwise very stable with no other damage.
8. Top of valve contact path great @ .050 ( Thanx Joe)

All in all pretty lucky not to have more damage from a stuck valve.

ICDEDPPL 12-07-2015 10:11 PM

Mike @ high Flow likes Flat top pistons .. his explanation was something to the effect of


I think it's more of a question of resistance to detonation anything. The flat-top gives you much more flat area quickly approaching the flat area of the head, causing much more of a "squish" effect that causes major turbulence in the combustion chamber, making a faster burn that's less likely to detonate. The dog-dished piston is first and foremost a smog device, designed for more complete combustion, and everything else be damned.
Additionally - the head is the best equipped to remove heat from the chamber. When you flatten out the chamber (reduce chamber size) and dish the piston - you remove heat transfer area from the head, and you increase heat transfer area to the piston.
I can`t swing new pistons so I`ll stick with what I have as along as they are still ok.


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