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imartin 12-29-2015 10:15 AM

525efi - mechanical fuel pump oil change
 
Ok, I think I have the courage up to change the oil in my mechanical fuel pump. 25 hrs on the oil since last change by dealer. Seems straight forward per the manual under owner maintenance. I have a syringe with a tube attached to it to fish through the fill screw opening and will have a bowl or something to catch the oil. Will use this set up to both extract and then replace with new HP Gear Lube. I will be vigilant of injecting lots of air into the bowl.

Any other pointers or advice????

Thanks in advance.

Pwraddr 12-29-2015 11:18 AM

Have something underneath, most likely you will remove that fill screw and fuel laden oil with rush out.

The rest appears you know, suck out the old stuff and fill until it starts coming out the screw hole and reinstall screw.

You can remove completely and drill and tap a lower hole for a drain also.

imartin 12-29-2015 11:24 AM

yes, will for sure have a catch in place for the oil. Yep, have seen where others have drilled and tapped a lower hole for ease. Makes sense, but wont be doing so on this change. appreciate it!

Is there pressure behind that fill screw?

Pwraddr 12-29-2015 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by imartin (Post 4388923)
yes, will for sure have a catch in place for the oil. Yep, have seen where others have drilled and tapped a lower hole for ease. Makes sense, but wont be doing so on this change. appreciate it!

Is there pressure behind that fill screw?

No, but when the fuel mixes with the gear oil it thins out and once you remove the screw it will run out because it will be overfilled. Again, assuming that there is fuel in it.

bonesmalon 12-29-2015 08:21 PM

I added drain plugs so I do it every fall and life is a lot easier draining out the bottom and refilling through the side. At the cost and headache associated with burning up a pump assembly I sleep easier now

Griff 12-29-2015 11:55 PM

I've tried using a syringe with a 1/4" tube and sucking the lube out. You can only get about half of the lube out that way. The tube gets hung up.

HyFive578 12-30-2015 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by bonesmalon (Post 4389057)
I added drain plugs so I do it every fall and life is a lot easier draining out the bottom and refilling through the side. At the cost and headache associated with burning up a pump assembly I sleep easier now

Currently, I just turn the pump upside down and sideways until it all drips out but I've been wanting to do the same thing with the drain plugs. Where did you drill the hole and what size tap and plug did you use? Any pictures?

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 12-30-2015 02:34 PM

IMCO sells hex head magnetic plugs. Easier to deal with than the slotted plugs.

imartin 12-31-2015 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4389109)
I've tried using a syringe with a 1/4" tube and sucking the lube out. You can only get about half of the lube out that way. The tube gets hung up.

Darn, i hope i have better luck with my syringe set up. Sounds like Merc took another shortcut with no drain plug for an item they stress maintenance on. Thanks for the tips!

thirdchildhood 12-31-2015 02:02 PM

I take the whole assembly off and change the oil and impeller every winter.

bonesmalon 12-31-2015 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by HyFive578 (Post 4389207)
Currently, I just turn the pump upside down and sideways until it all drips out but I've been wanting to do the same thing with the drain plugs. Where did you drill the hole and what size tap and plug did you use? Any pictures?

You have to pull the pump to put the drains in and there's an an obvious flat location that you'll see once you have it out. I used an Allen head plug with an oring seal rather than a pipe thread which seals because of its tapered threads. These can create cracks from stress if over tightened hence the o-ring style I selected.

imartin 01-03-2016 06:25 PM

Ok, here is my update: pulled the fill screw out for port, then stbd eng and as predicted, a fuel/gear lube mix flowed out. Smelled of gas. Syringe set up wasnt good at pulling any fluid out. It helped when it came to filling. I did fill till steady stream of gear lube coming out. I guess i did what is required maintenance.

I then started engine at boat ramp. All seemed ok, Smartcraft showed 40-42 fuel psi.

Does this maintenance impact fuel psi? My reading is within specs, so shall all pressume all is good? How/when would I know if I have a problem?

I am glad I got that gas out of there.

Thx.

bonesmalon 01-03-2016 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by imartin (Post 4390250)
Ok, here is my update: pulled the fill screw out for port, then stbd eng and as predicted, a fuel/gear lube mix flowed out. Smelled of gas. Syringe set up wasnt good at pulling any fluid out. It helped when it came to filling. I did fill till steady stream of gear lube coming out. I guess i did what is required maintenance.

I then started engine at boat ramp. All seemed ok, Smartcraft showed 40-42 fuel psi.

Does this maintenance impact fuel psi? My reading is within specs, so shall all pressume all is good? How/when would I know if I have a problem?

I am glad I got that gas out of there.

Thx.

The pressure you're reading would be the pressure created by the electric EFI pump not the mechanical one you just serviced. The mech runs about 8 psig and the electric one about 43 psig if I recall

imartin 01-07-2016 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4389109)
I've tried using a syringe with a 1/4" tube and sucking the lube out. You can only get about half of the lube out that way. The tube gets hung up.

So Griff (or anyone else for that matter), what are you using to get the lube out? (assuming you don't have a bottom drain installed).

Griff 01-07-2016 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by imartin (Post 4391489)
So Griff (or anyone else for that matter), what are you using to get the lube out? (assuming you don't have a bottom drain installed).

I don't have mech fuel pumps anymore. That is what I did on my other boats when I had them.

I used to change impellers every other year.
I would just remove the entire sea pump and tip it on its side and let the lube drain out on the years I was also changing the impeller.
On the years I wasn't changing the impeller, I would suck out what I could with the syringe/tube and then try and force/flush new lube in.

imartin 01-07-2016 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4391541)
I don't have mech fuel pumps anymore. That is what I did on my other boats when I had them.

I used to change impellers every other year.
I would just remove the entire sea pump and tip it on its side and let the lube drain out on the years I was also changing the impeller.
On the years I wasn't changing the impeller, I would suck out what I could with the syringe/tube and then try and force/flush new lube in.

ok, that's what I did with the syringe set up. I likely flushed more in than needed, but I did so until new and clean lube flowed back out....

Thanks,

PARADOX 01-25-2016 08:29 PM

What oil to use in the fuel pump? Gear lube? synt. oil? I have to do this too, but I have them off. :)

bonesmalon 01-25-2016 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by PARADOX (Post 4397199)
What oil to use in the fuel pump? Gear lube? synt. oil? I have to do this too, but I have them off. :)

Same gear oil you use in ur drives


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