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1 MAIDEN AMERICA 01-20-2016 12:30 PM

I believe the D-Max has aluminum heads and that's why it's so quiet.

Bawana 01-20-2016 12:32 PM

Just throwing this out there, If you want more heat to stay in the head. Then why do so many guys run their water temps so cold?

Mr Maine 01-20-2016 12:48 PM

You want as much heat to stay in the combustion chamber during the power cycle, which cools as the gases expand and the piston goes down, more heat and pressure at the beginning, more power.

After the power cycle, exhaust, and then compression, you want the combustion chamber cool enough that hot spots don't preingnite the compressing charge. Having the block cooler helps with this. There is a boundary layer at the surface of the metal, whether it is aluminum or iron that keeps the searing hot combustion gases from melting or burning away the metal. Aluminum passes more heat than iron as it is thermally more conductive and therefore is less likely to get those hot spots.

Baja Rooster 01-20-2016 01:01 PM

A bit of a segue, but would it be feasible to put a small blower like a B&M 250 on a 9.5:1, forged internals on a 502, and 91 octane pump gas? Would aluminum (Edelbrock Oval Performers) let you get away with that much CR under boost?

Panther 01-20-2016 01:02 PM

I ran Iron heads on my blower engines for years and it wasn't terrible. However the boost was low (6-7lbs).

Almost all Mercury's forced induction and high performance engines now have aluminum heads. I think the last time Mercury put an Iron head on a blower engine was the 800SC?

Not saying iron is bad... I kept mine for years because I was running in salt water. However, having switched over to aluminum and running them on a few other engines, I'm a believer.

Panther 01-20-2016 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4395443)
Yes, they are. I payed a bit less than that. Actually they were 425 each to my door. They are a favorite in the truck pulling class that mandates iron head per their rules. There are quite a few guys making over 1000hp on motor with these heads, ported of course. Out of the box, they flowed 370cfm at 600 lift, and 388 at .700, .391 at 800. Keep in mind this is an as cast head, 320cc runner, with a 2.25 valve.

Ive talked with quite a few head specialists and engine builders prior to buying them, and read a bunch of posts over on yellowbullet and speedtalk, and couldn't find one negative about them. Once i got them, looked them over, had my head guy give me his opinion, he really liked them. Then once he pulled our darts off the flow bench, and started flowing them, he liked them even more.

I'm building a set of 509 MPI's and since the GM heads were junk, I started looking at replacement options and these came up in conversation. Thanks for the info, they seem like a viable option for the owner to consider.

SB 01-20-2016 01:10 PM

Rumor has it, that EQ may be stopping the iron heads...so, if you are going to use a set, I wouldn't wait too long. Or atleast call EQ to see if this rumor is true or not.

Bawana 01-20-2016 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Mr Maine (Post 4395553)
You want as much heat to stay in the combustion chamber during the power cycle, which cools as the gases expand and the piston goes down, more heat and pressure at the beginning, more power.

After the power cycle, exhaust, and then compression, you want the combustion chamber cool enough that hot spots don't preingnite the compressing charge. Having the block cooler helps with this. There is a boundary layer at the surface of the metal, whether it is aluminum or iron that keeps the searing hot combustion gases from melting or burning away the metal. Aluminum passes more heat than iron as it is thermally more conductive and therefore is less likely to get those hot spots.

I understand, and totally agree, thats why I run aluminum heads. I Also run my motors at a constant 140*. My question was for those who stated that they want to keep more heat in the head, by going with iron, or doing whatever to keep heat in. But yet run no water temps.

MILD THUNDER 01-20-2016 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4395568)
Rumor has it, that EQ may be stopping the iron heads...so, if you are going to use a set, I wouldn't wait too long. Or atleast call EQ to see if this rumor is true or not.

I spoke with Kevin there last week, he didnt mention anything like that. He actually said they are selling alot of them to marine and truck puller guys. At least the bbc heads that is. They have only had the bbc line since 2012, i know they have had the sbc stuff for some time now . Their main office is only a few minutes from my house. Ill have to doible check with him on that though

MILD THUNDER 01-20-2016 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 4395562)
I ran Iron heads on my blower engines for years and it wasn't terrible. However the boost was low (6-7lbs).

Almost all Mercury's forced induction and high performance engines now have aluminum heads. I think the last time Mercury put an Iron head on a blower engine was the 800SC?

Not saying iron is bad... I kept mine for years because I was running in salt water. However, having switched over to aluminum and running them on a few other engines, I'm a believer.

575sci had iron.

Im not suggesting iron is better, im just suggesting that sometimes we cant ignore whats worked in the past.


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