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class6 05-19-2016 06:37 AM

Velocity creates vacuum , I work a lot with pressurized air boxes on normally aspirated motors. they have a lot of vacuum and we get frost built up on the throat of the carb. Bigger is not always better.

Mr Maine 05-19-2016 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by class6 (Post 4440740)
Velocity creates vacuum , I work a lot with pressurized air boxes on normally aspirated motors. they have a lot of vacuum and we get frost built up on the throat of the carb. Bigger is not always better.

Are you talking about a pressurized box surrounding the carb? That wouldn't be NA right? Not quite sure what you mean.

class6 05-19-2016 07:52 AM

Yes, Pressurized through a scoop of forced speed intake

Black Baja 05-19-2016 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by class6 (Post 4440740)
Velocity creates vacuum , I work a lot with pressurized air boxes on normally aspirated motors. they have a lot of vacuum and we get frost built up on the throat of the carb. Bigger is not always better.

So you are saying the frost is caused by high vacuum?

class6 05-19-2016 08:25 AM

High Velocity/Speed and pressure chill the air. Just like the air chuck gets real cold under volume of air rushing out

getrdunn 05-19-2016 08:27 AM

Fuel coolers :D

Black Baja 05-19-2016 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by class6 (Post 4440783)
High Velocity/Speed and pressure chill the air. Just like the air chuck gets real cold under volume of air rushing out

So the high velocity of air in the intake is what causes the carb to frost up? Hmm. So why doesn't this happen on a efi manifold at the throttle body?

SB 05-19-2016 12:22 PM

water mister in the air box. LOL.

or possibly IR's with injectors over the trumphets ?

Mr Maine 05-19-2016 12:40 PM

I know the temp drop in a carb is due to the venturi effect as well as the fuel evaporation (but mostly venturi effect as the air pressure drops)

Anyway, it would be nice to try some 850s or 950s but I think what I will do is get the jetting dialed in and check the vacuum under the carb at wot. If over 1 inch, I think I'll want to try a bigger one.

Thanks for the input

SB 05-19-2016 12:55 PM

Apollards 461 with 496 exhaust, ovals, and vic jr oval intake with 850cfm marine holley with almost identical camshaft pulls exactly 2" at WOT.


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