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Panther 08-11-2016 02:47 PM

I never thought to check it out. Would have to have the same setup and cam but different firing order. The double swap definitely smooths the idle out a little bit so I wonder if it pulls more vacuum?

Black Baja 08-11-2016 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 4469917)
I never thought to check it out. Would have to have the same setup and cam but different firing order. The double swap definitely smooths the idle out a little bit so I wonder if it pulls more vacuum?

The more you swap the more it pulls vacuum. Can cause issues with smaller cams. Cause it will pull to much vacuum and not open the power valves.

mike tkach 08-11-2016 08:38 PM

if nothing is changed on an engine except the firing order what would make it produce more vacuum?does each cylinder pull the same amount of air in on the intake stroke or am i missing something.

Tinkerer 08-11-2016 09:05 PM

Wave front inside the intake manifold? Smoother idle / smoother and steadier vacuum?

mike tkach 08-11-2016 09:48 PM

i get that but bb said more vacuum.i can,t wrap my head around that and would like to learn how that could happen.

Tinkerer 08-11-2016 10:14 PM

Probably has to do with intake reversion pulses canceling each other out. Smoother idle probably means less canceling of pulses.

mike tkach 08-12-2016 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by Tinkerer (Post 4470081)
Probably has to do with intake reversion pulses canceling each other out. Smoother idle probably means less canceling of pulses.

kind of reaching for straws. lot of probably,s their.

Black Baja 08-12-2016 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by Tinkerer (Post 4470081)
Probably has to do with intake reversion pulses canceling each other out. Smoother idle probably means less canceling of pulses.

This is the only thing that I could thing of. On the exhaust end of it it's no mystery. A motor with a double swap cam sounds like a lame duck compared to a standard firing order. We've seen 16" of vacuum over 3,000 rpm with some double swap motors. Which can be trouble especially when you have a 6.5 PV. Try to get the boat on plane and she starts snap crackle and popping because the carb will not flow any fuel. Put in a 10.5 PV (which are a pain to get) and she's good to go.

kvogt 08-12-2016 07:32 AM

Who wave tunes an intake or exhaust at idle rpms?

Eliminated572 08-12-2016 07:48 AM

Another thing to note on AFR adjustment is PVCR's. If off idle to cruise is good AFR but lean WOT or moderate accel, enlarge the PVCR's (Note: At a certain point high flow PV's are required). This will enrich the mix only when the PV's are open rather than across the board. My cruise was mid 12's to 13. WOT was 13.0-13.1. I enlarged both Pri and Sec PVCR's .005. Cruise still same (PV's are shut) and WOT is now 12.6. - 12.8


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