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Keith Atlanta 11-09-2016 06:54 PM

Freevalve Update - Camless Engine
 
KOENIGSEGG has this in their cars but now they are working with manufacturers. Great video of awesome technology. Hopefuly this isnt too far off for LS technology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3cFfM3r510

Baja Rooster 11-09-2016 08:45 PM

Then what would we argue about?

dunnitagain 11-09-2016 08:53 PM

Thats mid 90's F1 Technology , I think Mercedes or Ferrari had an International Patent on it . Patent must be expired . Thats some cool chit though!

TooLateVTEC 11-09-2016 08:54 PM

Thats pretty damn cool

Budman II 11-10-2016 12:27 PM

Another video that has a nice illustration of it in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2mTriy9oQM

Bet it won't be cheap if one of those circuit boards goes out!

RSCHAP1 11-10-2016 01:14 PM

Always heard when 48 volt electrical systems come around, stators or solenoids will operator valves.

SB 11-10-2016 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Baja Rooster (Post 4499242)
Then what would we argue about?

What valve actuating program is better.

turbom700 11-10-2016 01:26 PM

Switching a Cam Shaft is only a reflash away, I think its cool as heck but there is a reason we have sent it yet from the Big guys, Cost and complexity is my guess!

Gimme Fuel 11-10-2016 01:40 PM

This is an amazing system. I cannot wait until it becomes mainstream. The next "holy grail" in engine design such as variable compression ratios which freevalve is proving more feasible.

Sonic30ss 11-12-2016 04:02 PM

Dude you could go from Crane Fireball 3/4 race cam to RV cam with the flip of a switch 😉

sutphen 30 11-23-2016 03:19 PM

getting closer

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/ko...s-performance/

bck 11-23-2016 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Sonic30ss (Post 4499985)
Dude you could go from Crane Fireball 3/4 race cam to RV cam with the flip of a switch 

Hey, I have a Crane Fireball

SB 11-23-2016 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by bck (Post 4503555)
Hey, I have a Crane Fireball

Or was that a Harvey Wallbanger ?

sutphen 30 11-23-2016 03:34 PM

I have the 3/4 race cam,,,I make a millllllliion hp.:D

thirdchildhood 11-23-2016 05:10 PM

Electric valve actuators are an old idea. Will it ever be viable? I don't know but for me it evokes memories of the Wankel engine.

bck 11-23-2016 09:41 PM

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Fireball 413 or something like that. Got it in 88 for a 455 Olds. I still have the cam and engine.
Here it is...

Brandonb_05 11-24-2016 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 4503591)
Electric valve actuators are an old idea. Will it ever be viable? I don't know but for me it evokes memories of the Wankel engine.

I had a turbocharged Felix Wankel engine. It was unreliable as they come but it sure would spin up.

Sonic30ss 11-24-2016 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by bck (Post 4503555)
Hey, I have a Crane Fireball

Back in '82 I stuffed a fireball in my '76 Chrysler Cordobas 8:1 400 in February with no garage cuz the plastic upper timing gear stripped. My first ever cam change lol Ahhh the good old days 😉 Dumbass kid

Wildman_grafix 11-24-2016 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 4503591)
Electric valve actuators are an old idea. Will it ever be viable? I don't know but for me it evokes memories of the Wankel engine.

Why would it remind you of a Wankel ( Rotary ) motor?

bck 11-24-2016 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Sonic30ss (Post 4503721)
Back in '82 I stuffed a fireball in my '76 Chrysler Cordobas 8:1 400 in February with no garage cuz the plastic upper timing gear stripped. My first ever cam change lol Ahhh the good old days �� Dumbass kid

Funny thing is, I still have that engine and it runs. Perhaps we are overthinking these boat engines.

SB 11-24-2016 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by bck (Post 4503738)
Funny thing is, I still have that engine and it runs. Perhaps we are overthinking these boat engines.

Nah. mid 80's to early 90's I couldn't keep my Olds motor together valvetrain wise...even with all the Mondello parts...but then again going with larger than I should have 'Beast' cams from Crower and going to 7k or so wasn't smart with Olds stuff. Finally made switch to Chevies that could handle that for millions less $$$$ and not break.....trans, drive shafts, ujoints, and rear ends different story with the added power...lol.

1MOSES1 11-24-2016 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 4503591)
Electric valve actuators are an old idea. Will it ever be viable? I don't know but for me it evokes memories of the Wankel engine.

If the solenoids are anything like what we use in the aerospace industry they will never be a long term solution. We have tons of problems with them in vibratory environments. The pedestals wear, creates debris, and the current required for them to operate always exceeds what they are given. Constant failures.

Wildman_grafix 11-24-2016 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Sonic30ss (Post 4503721)
Back in '82 I stuffed a fireball in my '76 Chrysler Cordobas 8:1 400 in February with no garage cuz the plastic upper timing gear stripped. My first ever cam change lol Ahhh the good old days 😉 Dumbass kid

Funny I had one with a 360,,,,,,,, "fine Corinthian leather" lol

79formula 11-24-2016 10:58 AM

They used 48v to actuate the injectors on the 6.0powerstroke. If they could use solenoids to control the injection, it should work on valves.

justfishing 11-24-2016 06:16 PM

I would think this would greatly improve valve life. The valves could be closed with less force and there would be no lash adjust. The cam profile would be infinitely variable.

scarabman 11-25-2016 07:32 AM

http://www.coatesengine.com/csrv-system.html This is something a little different that has been in development by an NJ company for about 15yrs or so , as I recall from 1st hearing about it. Looks they they finally hit it huge with a $100 mil licensing agreement for a Chinese company to mass produce.

Brandonb_05 11-25-2016 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by 79formula (Post 4503754)
They used 48v to actuate the injectors on the 6.0powerstroke. If they could use solenoids to control the injection, it should work on valves.

High pressure oil as well on the 6.0


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