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Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed
(Post 4508950)
That's awesome, you don't see a lot of guys doing LS marine stuff. I was just curios where you were building and installing all these cool projects, when you say "we" I just assumed it was your shop. I have no problem with you at all. Would love to see some pics of either LS install if you ever get a chance, as long as it's not some proprietary hardware you can't share. I'm doing a few right now and always like to look for new ideas. Thanks
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Many offset lifter builds. If so with what builds, heads etc
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Originally Posted by getrdunn
(Post 4509078)
Many offset lifter builds. If so with what builds, heads etc
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I machine alot of lifter bores for lifter up grades to .904 and .937 rather then go to an .842 with bushing I would go to a .904 or .937.
I have seen about every lifter out there to size for lifter bores and to date ISKY .842 lifter are not .842 more like .8405 to .841 to put them in a .844 lifter bore and end up with .003 to .0035 oil clearance in not going make for a happy lifter. Same with Crower. There seems to be a lot of sizing issues that have never been addressed. The last set of bushed lifters had sizing issues and the Customer was not happy with their 1400.00 lifters. Don't get me wrong ISKY makes a good lifter but having to buy 2 if not 3 sets to make up one set is not very cost effective. Do a search on Yellow Bullet forum there is a lot threads about lifter sizing. Comp Cams, ISKY and Crower and Jesel .841 lifters I have had to bush the lifter bores back and fit them to .0014 to .0019 Roller lifters like a controlled environment have oil clearance .003 to .0035 is not good. Having alot of oil clearance with cost good HP because of extra unwanted bleed off. Oil control is key to making HP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpfOKr3B3FA There Does not seem to a standard when it comes to lifter sizing compared to OEM sizes |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4507649)
Didnt morel make the solid roller lifters for crower ?
Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4507655)
Johnson
Originally Posted by CNC BLOCKS
(Post 4511128)
I machine alot of lifter bores for lifter up grades to .904 and .937 rather then go to an .842 with bushing I would go to a .904 or .937.
I have seen about every lifter out there to size for lifter bores and to date ISKY .842 lifter are not .842 more like .8405 to .841 to put them in a .844 lifter bore and end up with .003 to .0035 oil clearance in not going make for a happy lifter. Same with Crower. There seems to be a lot of sizing issues that have never been addressed. The last set of bushed lifters had sizing issues and the Customer was not happy with their 1400.00 lifters. Don't get me wrong ISKY makes a good lifter but having to buy 2 if not 3 sets to make up one set is not very cost effective. Do a search on Yellow Bullet forum there is a lot threads about lifter sizing. Comp Cams, ISKY and Crower and Jesel .841 lifters I have had to bush the lifter bores back and fit them to .0014 to .0019 Roller lifters like a controlled environment have oil clearance .003 to .0035 is not good. Having alot of oil clearance with cost good HP because of extra unwanted bleed off. Oil control is key to making HP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpfOKr3B3FA There Does not seem to a standard when it comes to lifter sizing compared to OEM sizes |
Jesel recommends .0018-.0022 clearance on there liffers
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4511197)
Jesel recommends .0018-.0022 clearance on there liffers
Interesting I have found that they work good at .0015 |
Egads with lifters being such a precision part why in the world so much fluctuations etc. Makes no sense. I realize the old days were much different and less hp builds but I've purchased many sets of hydraulic flat tappet lifters for both SBC and BBC and would never even give it a thought and they lasted for ever and the bores were always fine as well as the consistancy of the lifter size. Back then I used cranes. It just seems like as of recent (last 3-5 years) you always here about the latest best lifter only to find out it changes in 6 months and then there is another brand / part number, better oiling, better rollers, diameter consistancy, and on and on.
I'm just going to let my machine/speed shop purchase and check alignment and clearances. I mentioned in earlier post they still use cranes to date with great success and send a lot of builds out the door. They have a great shop with all the latest and greatest equipment and have been at it for many many years. I do understand oversize and even undersize but to have the inconsistencies in the same set is rediculous. I mean do some just install what fits best in what bore. Not a chance here. Anyway Tks for the update. I appreciate and you just made up my mind and gonna call shop tomorrow. So what if I could purchase the same ones for 100 bucks or so cheaper. Leave it in their hands. That's pretty good info |
MT that was pretty amazing video. Many back yard hobbiest - builders would have no clue. To be honest I've never even seen anything like that.
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
(Post 4511197)
Jesel recommends .0018-.0022 clearance on there liffers
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