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Who's got a desk top dyno?
Now that I have all the major pieces bought, can you plug it in and see what it says,, or anybody have any good guestimates?
454 8.5 compression, 731 cam, promaxx 320's, ( Intake .200 = 155cfm, .300 = 228, .400 = 289, .500 = 336, .600 = 368, .700 = 388 .800 = 392 exh .200 = 117, .300 = 158, .400 = 205, .500 = 228, .600 = 258 (w pipe 277) .700 = 260, (280) .800 = 261 (283)... 1050 dom on a 177 blower, 5psi. |
No desktop dyno, but I would guesstimate around 580hp @5400 rpms.
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put it together bring it up to michigan, 30 min north of detroit this time of the year my "real" dyno is looking for jobs to run
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567.3
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I modeled a 525 SC then changed the heads to your flow numbers, swapped cams and raised the compression. It shows 617 HP.
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Originally Posted by bobl
(Post 4526548)
I modeled a 525 SC then changed the heads to your flow numbers, swapped cams and raised the compression. It shows 617 HP.
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Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 4526554)
Oh boy.... I think Im going to need a bigger prop.... :party-smiley-004:
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yeah, that too... when I replaced the lower 2 years ago, the propshaft and the vertical shaft both had twisted splines
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What you have in it for power now and what kind of speeds are you running ?
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If I throw the little pulley on and a 2" shorty, the bam speed calculator thing predicts top speed somewhere between the mortuary and the crematorium....
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Originally Posted by tommymonza
(Post 4526569)
What you have in it for power now and what kind of speeds are you running ?
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Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 4526034)
Now that I have all the major pieces bought, can you plug it in and see what it says,, or anybody have any good guestimates?
454 8.5 compression, 731 cam, promaxx 320's, ( Intake .200 = 155cfm, .300 = 228, .400 = 289, .500 = 336, .600 = 368, .700 = 388 .800 = 392 exh .200 = 117, .300 = 158, .400 = 205, .500 = 228, .600 = 258 (w pipe 277) .700 = 260, (280) .800 = 261 (283)... 1050 dom on a 177 blower, 5psi. Seriously though. Those heads are flowing as good if not better than a set of afr 305's. Those are real flow numbers, not "advertised". I gotta do some stuff around the house right now, but I'll try and run it in my program for you as well. The 731 cam is gonna be a bit on the small side to get in the upper 5000's for peak power. I'd probably would have gone with the 525EFI or 741 cam. I could compare the two , and see how they stack up power wise. Shooting from the hip, I think you'll easily get over 600 without a problem. Wayne272 build a set of those engines, but had a 236/245 114 crane Flat tappet, 177 blower, dominator, stock Merc heads, and made 575ish around 5500, with around 4.5lbs of boost. Torque was 600ish ft lbs. |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4526576)
You should have said "AFR" heads. The HP guesses would have been 650+. lol
Seriously though. Those heads are flowing as good if not better than a set of afr 305's. Those are real flow numbers, not "advertised". I gotta do some stuff around the house right now, but I'll try and run it in my program for you as well. The 731 cam is gonna be a bit on the small side to get in the upper 5000's for peak power. I'd probably would have gone with the 525EFI or 741 cam. I could compare the two , and see how they stack up power wise. Shooting from the hip, I think you'll easily get over 600 without a problem. Wayne272 build a set of those engines, but had a 236/245 114 crane Flat tappet, 177 blower, dominator, stock Merc heads, and made 575ish around 5500, with around 4.5lbs of boost. Torque was 600ish ft lbs. |
^^^ isn`t it basically the same motor that made 690hp as Phragles? Why is your guess is 130hp less?
My guess: 688hp |
Should be interesting to see how the promaxx heads work out. Could be a nice option.
Phragly, you gonna dyno it ? |
Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4526591)
^^^ isn`t it basically the same motor that made 690hp as Phragles? Why is your guess is 130hp less?
My guess: 688hp |
Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4526591)
^^^ isn`t it basically the same motor that made 690hp as Phragles? Why is your guess is 130hp less?
My guess: 688hp |
The plan is to dyno it....and get a good solid base tune. I would also like to see if the tune stays consistent if I swap to the glory pulley....
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I told her last night I wanted to swap "Glory pulleys" I have 2 black eyes this morning!!! :hijack::evilb::lolhit::thankyouthankyou:
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Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 4526570)
If I throw the little pulley on and a 2" shorty, the bam speed calculator thing predicts top speed somewhere between the mortuary and the crematorium....
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That will be a nice build regardless but I'd say griff would pretty close estimate.
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I got 630hp with that combo, and 612HP, with the stock 525sc camshaft in it.
Stock 525sc cam, was 228/236 114 LSA .530/.551 731 cam, is 226/236 112 LSA. .587/.610 That would make sense to me. If I recall, griff replaced his stock flat tappet cam in his 525sc, for the 731, and picked up about 100rpm. Thats probably around 20-25hp gain. Cams are fairly similar duration wise, a bit more lift /lifter acceleration with the roller design. Thats about what I think should be expected when going from a flat tappet to hyd roller cam. Its certainly not 50+HP like some may suggest. Thats figured with small headers and right about 5lbs boost. I am sure if its dynoed with big tube dyno headers , those numbers will be higher. Prob 650 plus with the 731 cam, dyno headers, etc. |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4526955)
I got 630hp with that combo, and 612HP, with the stock 525sc camshaft in it.
Stock 525sc cam, was 228/236 114 LSA .530/.551 731 cam, is 226/236 112 LSA. .587/.610 That would make sense to me. If I recall, griff replaced his stock flat tappet cam in his 525sc, for the 731, and picked up about 100rpm. Thats probably around 20-25hp gain. Cams are fairly similar duration wise, a bit more lift /lifter acceleration with the roller design. Thats about what I think should be expected when going from a flat tappet to hyd roller cam. Its certainly not 50+HP like some may suggest. Thats figured with small headers and right about 5lbs boost. I am sure if its dynoed with big tube dyno headers , those numbers will be higher. Prob 650 plus with the 731 cam, dyno headers, etc. I was running the stock bottom end with 7.5 CR pistons and about 7.5# of boost. I estimated I was around 560-570hp. I figure the extra boost I had and his 1 point higher CR are pretty much a wash for HP. I'm not sure how much the promaxx heads will gain hp wise. Maybe 20-30hp??? |
so what kind of speed you thinking?
TRS right? set deep? 77mph |
Originally Posted by tommymonza
(Post 4526969)
so what kind of speed you thinking?
TRS right? set deep? 77mph |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4526955)
I got 630hp with that combo, and 612HP, with the stock 525sc camshaft in it.
Stock 525sc cam, was 228/236 114 LSA .530/.551 731 cam, is 226/236 112 LSA. .587/.610 That would make sense to me. If I recall, griff replaced his stock flat tappet cam in his 525sc, for the 731, and picked up about 100rpm. Thats probably around 20-25hp gain. Cams are fairly similar duration wise, a bit more lift /lifter acceleration with the roller design. Thats about what I think should be expected when going from a flat tappet to hyd roller cam. Its certainly not 50+HP like some may suggest. Thats figured with small headers and right about 5lbs boost. I am sure if its dynoed with big tube dyno headers , those numbers will be higher. Prob 650 plus with the 731 cam, dyno headers, etc. |
Rob what exhaust you have on there?
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I have a set of stainless marines, with regular risers and a set thats dry to the tip. I would like to get by with the standard risers if possible so I dont become that guy with the noisy azz boat.
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Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 4526992)
I have a set of stainless marines, with regular risers and a set thats dry to the tip. I would like to get by with the standard risers if possible so I dont become that guy with the noisy azz boat.
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Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 4526975)
Bravo, set in the middle......
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Originally Posted by tommymonza
(Post 4527092)
So maybe 80?
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Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 4527102)
if ALL the stars align... but I am pretty much counting on mid 70's
Going to need to Wear your Special helmet. |
Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 4527102)
if ALL the stars align... but I am pretty much counting on mid 70's
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Originally Posted by SFOcean
(Post 4527213)
It will do that with 450 at the prop.
Time to update the life insurance... |
You have full hydraulic steering, so no big deal; I saw your video, LOL.
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