Don't drag anything even though it says to. Just open click on pic and load.

yes it is... I asked back when if they would be ok, I mean it's not like I cheated out after spending over 30,000 in parts... I would have gotten intakes if I was advised to. Oh well... I got ten now!!


Text me pics of yours

Btw. I must say you got it going on. I've got a lot on my plate so just kinda read through quickly although think it's great want your doing. Sorry if I missed it but is this going to be 8.5:1 builds with future forced induction or going to stay NA and just want to keep comp down. On another note I sent Valako a 2927 SV and he didn't like it and wanted to find something with longer runners. I suggested sniper jr and he didn't care for the cross section and evidently had tried it on a build and was done making power to low. So we left it with going with the brodix hv2001 dom flange. This was for 555/565 NA builds with the promaxx heads tricked out. I just jumped the gun before heads complete cause he plans to raise the floors.

Builds changed to SC so threw all the concerns of intake out the window. I woulda been very close to your position on this as I don't like to dyno to just look for afr', egt's and oil leaks. Funny how builds can be so similar yet result in completely different likes and needs.

Do a little reading btwn this and bck's and it makes my head hurt. Lol. Keep up the good work. I just ordered speedmaster blower intakes. i was a little reluctant at first cause their an 1" higher than most others. Hopefully the SC likes the extra plenum.

Your gonna have to rename your boat to "Wang Chung" Tonight. :evilb:

I am running this Canton pan.

https://www.cantonracingproducts.com...MP-MARINE-PAN/

I've had her up to 6500 in dyno several times, in full marine trim, with the remote filter, cooler, etc, and oil psi didn't dip even half a psi. 6200 in boat, no oil psi drops. I do however, only have a 4" stroke. fwiw.

I have the parts laying around, i got on this kick to make 680/700 reliable hp on 89 or 87 octane since i own the pistons already, IF I cant make 650 with a safe tune that can be held at wot for 20 min at a time or I blow this up on dyno then I'll punch both blocks to 4.600 and bump compression to 10-1

My 14 qt hardin pan was same way, This Canton -364 should work too, its actually got more features and is supposed to be a step up over the one you have but we all know there is alot of junk out there for sale!

Tried that, I can post a new pic from phone, load it and it will a[peear on bottom and allow me to ;post but If iI go click on a pic thats on OSO of mine where it shows the pages of previous pics even if I only click and dont drag it shows no picture, on home computer now.
Tim, here is a pic of my speedmaster box stock:

yea, that looks a lot better then my Pro Comps....

Not at shop and cant figure out how the fuk to get pictures off my dying note 4 onto my new one so I took a fkng pic of the picture on old phone! intake plenum after I touched it up, it was probably better before but you can see its no where as nasty looking as the procomp tim posted, Dam!

I like that we've touched 675hp, with a 8.5:1 540 platform with a chinaman intake. And a cam that was intended to be used with a blower.

me too, gives me some hope.... I think... haha

Steve, when it comes time to try different cams, you going to try a solid roller profile, or stick with the hyd stick with solid lifters ?

The two things helping is the most badass 4150 carb known to man and absolutely killer heads plus norm tuning on the carb. Just think if you could get the head guy from one of the best carb shops in US to come to your dyno session and personally make changes!! It took 3n hours and 10+ pulls to get this pig from the 630's to 650's with this dominator, makes no sense!! Im throwing a post up on FB to my local peeps to try to find a carb spacer for tommorrrow!

Looks don't tell you the whole story. Didn't your Mom tell you that growing up ? :)

lol

Steve, I am back from vacation, I could send my carb if you still want to try it, text me ..

Smitty, what type of carb spacer you need/want? I can 3D print you up 1", 2", 3" or4"+.

Im moving on to efi after i get everythi g out of this that it can make, probably sometimes next week. If you can send me your carb and FA this week ill test it before moving on. You can find my address on our fb business page smittyseng or on our website contact page : smittysengtrans.com

We dynoed my engines with no spacer, open spacer, 4 hole super sucker, and ended up with both the 1" open AND the 1" 4 hole on my Foxwell ported Victor Jr. And a 1190 Prosystems dom

Unless this dominator is a mess it seems it needs more spacer, we will know tomorrow. Im going to bolt the 4150 and its 3" of spacer back on and see if we get our hp back too!

Great info and a ton of work, so thanks for posting the results.

My guess is the efi will have a little less power with a smidge more midrange torque and better manners.

cool, let me see if I can send over next 2 days

Smitty, I think what you are seeing is what a lot of drag race guys found a while back, the 4500, with a spacer/adapter to 4150 shows a strong signal to the carb and works very well, I know a few guys swear by this setup...

I see that more on small blocks.

Big block in general, if they need a DOM, tend to like a Dom manifold too.

My carb guy norm says ssme thing, 4150 modded to flow same as dominator will out perform it in every way BUT i would think 3 or 4 hp here or there, 25+?

Last year , a friend had dynoed with dominators. First one was a modified one from Nickerson. They tuned it on the dyno. It had a good afr from 4000 to 6500, but below that, it was all over the place. Tons of changes to the carb, and they werent happy with it. They put on a box stock ultra gen 3 dominator, made a couple jet changes , they had a rock sollid afr from 3200-6500, and picked up about 18hp if i recall at peak.

I think booster style can play a big role in the fuel atomoization. Straightleg, downleg, annular, etc.

SO - does an EFI gain from having a spacer. I have the HOLLEY 2000 CFM throttle body ( 4500 )

Good question, in a week or two ill know, at least with speedmaster intake, this compression and cam what works, Smitty

It's all about the signal the carb see's and how it effects the fuel drawn out of the boosters, I have seen video(can't remember where) of camera's in carb on dyno pulls where you see the fuel coming in, and showing different intakes/spacers/carbs very interesting..keep up the great work !

I dont think EFI will be effected anything like a carb with a spacer, as you are only changing airflow, not how the fuel is being drawn from the carb...

Alot of crazy schit going underneath carb's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iq1B-2paCs

Cool video thanks for sharing

I second that !!

Chaos! Lol

I imagine similar pulses in the exhaust side which makes understanding reversion even easier.

kinda what I saw, but was from top of carb looking down, both really show weird stuff going on...

popcorn ....... I love your threads .....

Finally had a chance to get back to this, made a couple pulls tonight first pull established a baseline for today, same day same Dyno of course check timing check valve lash over previous good runs. Controlled the shop conditions until correction factor was almost dead identical to the other day made a baseline pull, horsepower numbers almost identical to last Saturday. Added a second inch of spacer under the Dominator gained four horsepower, lost 10 foot pounds of torque numbers look like s*** with this Dominator on there. Borrowing a box stock 1050 Dominator off a customer's race truck we have at our shop going to make a couple pulls with it when I get time in the next few days then I'm going to bolt the modded 4150 back on

If I sent you one of these, would it be worth a test