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MILD THUNDER 03-26-2017 11:51 AM

Carb comparison article
 
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thought I'd share it with you guys.

The test mule, was a 496ci. 4.25x4.31 bore bbc. It had a 12.5:1 compression ratio, AFR 325 heads, 270/282 hydraulic roller with 112 LSA, and .680/.680 lift. 220 seat, 520 open. Crane lifters. Weiand Team G intake. No spacers used.

As you can see, in this test, the 750 CFM, lost everywhere from 4000rpm and up. Less torque, and less hp. By 6000 rpm, it was down 45hp to the dominator, and down 25hp to the 950.

The carbs were new holleys, the ultra HP and ultra dominator.

getrdunn 03-26-2017 01:32 PM

I wonder how much difference would be with 10:1 comp and something closer to a 741 cam (Peak 6k). I wouldn't have expected to see that much gains starting at as low as 4K rpm with their combo though. Good info joe.

Based on carb formula at 95% efficiency shows 950 cfm plus so I guess I could see why the big difference based on a 950 carb flows closer to 830 as we know. Regardless here's a true case where bigger is better. Hah

SB 03-26-2017 02:38 PM

Did the Dom use a 4500 intake or use an adapter ?

Baja Rooster 03-26-2017 02:41 PM

Not surprising results given the test mule, and like John said I'd like to see it on a more typical build. But I'm curious if the dominator affected the drivability below the 4K mark?

SB 03-26-2017 02:42 PM

Getrdunn - supposedly the Ultra 950's are closer to 950 unlike the old HP950....but I have not seen verification from 3rd parties on this.

getrdunn 03-26-2017 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Baja Rooster (Post 4540932)
Not surprising results given the test mule, and like John said I'd like to see it on a more typical build. But I'm curious if the dominator affected the drivability below the 4K mark?

The ultra doms evidently are much better than old school dom and idle well and easy to tune.

getrdunn 03-26-2017 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4540934)
Getrdunn - supposedly the Ultra 950's are closer to 950 unlike the old HP950....but I have not seen verification from 3rd parties on this.

I didn't realize that. What's the size of their main body and throttle plate I wonder?

I did just notice their about about 4 jet sizes larger front and rear and no pv in the rear. That's taking the pv into consideration on the holley.

MILD THUNDER 03-26-2017 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4540931)
Did the Dom use a 4500 intake or use an adapter ?

They swapped the 4150 Team G intake, for a 4500 version Team G intake, for the dominator.

getrdunn 03-26-2017 07:55 PM

What woulda been neat to see is the results of a 4150/1050 QF

articfriends 03-26-2017 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4541003)
What woulda been neat to see is the results of a 4150/1050 QF

I recently did exactly that test, a modded dom, stock dom and tim full forces QF 1050 on my dyno on the 548, they were all within a few hp, norms ultra modded 4150 based on a 850 but flowed 1170 kicked all their asses by 15 to 19 hp butthats a work of art!


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