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Backfiring through intake
Hi folks. I need some help from someone who's a lot more experienced than I am.
I was de-winterizing the engines (2000 Mercruiser 8.2L (502CI)) MPI and the starboard engine is giving me a fit. It ran perfect until when I just tried to start it this week. When turning over, it will idle but the idle is erratic and it will backfire through the intake. I did a compression test (all were within spec), checked the spark plug wires a half dozen times, made sure the wires are routed right, installed new distributor cap, installed new ignition coil.... .but still backfiring through the intake. Plugs looked fine as well. What should I do next? Could it be a bad / clogged up fuel injector? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. |
I'M NOT A MECHANIC
Could it be the timing? Bump the distributor and knock it out? Lord knows I did that by accident in a car I once owned - drove me crazy. Just a thought 3pointstar |
Originally Posted by 3pointstar
(Post 4552239)
I'M NOT A MECHANIC
Could it be the timing? Bump the distributor and knock it out? Lord knows I did that by accident in a car I once owned - drove me crazy. Just a thought 3pointstar |
intake valve may have some rust build up,,it's not seating properly,just back firing thru to the intake.
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Originally Posted by sutphen 30
(Post 4552244)
intake valve may have some rust build up,,it's not seating properly,just back firing thru to the intake.
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a bad injector would be a dead miss. no fuel to backfire with. yes, a bad intake valve, bad enough to blow back like that would show almost no compression. do both these engines turn the same way? or is this a shaft boat, not I/O? check plug wires again. it is always plug wires or some other spark going to wrong plug thing.
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Did you pull distributor to ck gear and shine down in and take a look at the cam gear. Also double ck ignition grounds. All grounds for that matter. Your symptoms sound almost like your dist is 180 off which I know isn't the case but. Ignition module?
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It sounds like an ignition problem. Check all plug connections to ignition system for corrosion. Pick up module in distributor could be a possible cause as well.
You said you changed dist cap--what about the rotor??? |
Originally Posted by Griff
(Post 4552303)
It sounds like an ignition problem. Check all plug connections to ignition system for corrosion. Pick up module in distributor could be a possible cause as well.
You said you changed dist cap--what about the rotor??? |
Ya be careful those rotors are pricey. Lol. Should replace at time of cap as a rule of thumb. Kinda doubt it's the problem though. Isn't this fun.
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Bad plug can and will do it.
Bad distributor pick up can do it. Weak or water in fuel can do it. As Sutphen30 said, valve not seating can definitely do it. So could a broken valvespring. As with all driveability issues, basics must be done/checked first. People's minds like to scatter and lose focus before this happens. |
Intake valve hanging up intermittently at idle. Does it miss if you bring up the rpm's?
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Does it backfire steady with every engine revolution when running,,or just an occasional backfire.
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Originally Posted by 253
(Post 4552908)
Does it backfire steady with every engine revolution when running,,or just an occasional backfire.
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A clogged injector will in fact cause that, had one that acted the same way, popping...
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If ir backfires thru the intake with every revolution while running you have an ,exhaust valve Not opening,, pull the valve covers ,,check if a rocker arm stud broke or pushrod came off,,, I broke an exhaust rocker arm stud years ago, it popped thru the carb. with every revolution when running,, compression will check out ok because the valve is closed.
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Originally Posted by 253
(Post 4552974)
If ir backfires thru the intake with every revolution while running you have an ,exhaust valve Not opening,, pull the valve covers ,,check if a rocker arm stud broke or pushrod came off,,, I broke an exhaust rocker arm stud years ago, it popped thru the carb. with every revolution when running,, compression will check out ok because the valve is closed.
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add in collapsed lifter from sitting up over winter valve compressed
or some ex valves got rusted stems and sticking as stated |
Originally Posted by johnmiffco
(Post 4554048)
add in collapsed lifter from sitting up over winter valve compressed
or some ex valves got rusted stems and sticking as stated |
I would take a shot at freeing up the valve and doing a compression test.
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Originally Posted by dereknkathy
(Post 4554590)
I would take a shot at freeing up the valve and doing a compression test.
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Salt water ?
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Originally Posted by Blown284
(Post 4554613)
Pushrod is bent. couple of valves shot. sending to machine shop to have work done and heads cleaned. Also going to go ahead and get new manifolds & risers for both engines. Turns out one of the manifolds was leaking which is the root cause of all this. Live and learn.
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=Blown284;4554613]Pushrod is bent. couple of valves shot. sending to machine shop to have work done and heads cleaned. Also going to go ahead and get new manifolds & risers for both engines. Turns out one of the manifolds was leaking which is the root cause of all this. Live and learn.[/QUOTE]
Good idea, don't patch it up,,send to the machine shop and get it fixed properly .,save a lot of problems later on. |
Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4554616)
Salt water ?
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Originally Posted by dereknkathy
(Post 4554706)
Which manifold? Gil style? I believe the risers, being stainless, have very long lives. The manifolds are the culprit.
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Ok, then look on ebay for stainless risers that fit stock manifolds.http://m.ebay.com/itm/816900A7-Stain...%257Ciid%253A1 you can usually find en about 150 a pair.
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