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getrdunn 11-08-2017 03:24 PM

Just wanted to make note I'm not certain timing events are the same for gen VI cam 169651 as one listed above. One above is 139651 non step nose. I would imagine they are but...

Warship2k15 11-08-2017 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4592556)
Been around for many years but stil a great cam and I bet would work well with your current build / heads. I'm not sure what your plan is to do but thought I'd post the cam card anyway.

That would be a good cam for his application if it wont revert.
still is going to have to prop the boat for 4800-5000 rpm.
And both the numbers have the exact same timing events just one is a step nose and the other is not.

Warship2k15 11-08-2017 06:15 PM

sent you a pm

mike tkach 11-08-2017 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4592560)
Just wanted to make note I'm not certain timing events are the same for gen VI cam 169651 as one listed above. One above is 139651 non step nose. I would imagine they are but...

same cam except for nose.

getrdunn 11-08-2017 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Warship2k15 (Post 4592584)
That would be a good cam for his application if it wont revert.
still is going to have to prop the boat for 4800-5000 rpm.
And both the numbers have the exact same timing events just one is a step nose and the other is not.

651 should pull peak 5,700-5,800 easily in a 540.

getrdunn 11-08-2017 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4592595)
same cam except for nose.

I assumed they were but you know what assumption can be remember? The mother of all fk ups. Mike you've used the 651 in several builds. What's typical peak hp in a 540 +/-? Also is there known reversion issues with wet exhaust. I wouldn't think it would but I'm not certain as I've never used it.

Warship2k15 11-08-2017 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Warship2k15 (Post 4592584)
That would be a good cam for his application if it wont revert.
still is going to have to prop the boat for 4800-5000 rpm.
And both the numbers have the exact same timing events just one is a step nose and the other is not.


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4592608)
I assumed they were but you know what assumption can be remember? The mother of all fk ups. Mike you've used the 651 in several builds. What's typical peak hp in a 540 +/-? Also is there known reversion issues with wet exhaust. I wouldn't think it would but I'm not certain as I've never used it.

Better yet Mike whats the torque difference between 5000 and 5700.and please take into consideration the 088 heads and wet exhaust.
And yes please educate us on if it will revert.

mike tkach 11-08-2017 07:18 PM

i never used a 651 in a n/a engine but in my blown 548s if i remember correctly they peaked around 6400 rpm.

mike tkach 11-08-2017 07:22 PM

i think the torque curve was pretty flat,they made good torque from 4000 on up.i am to lazy to go to the shop to look at the dyno sheets,also i was not worried about reversion due to dry exhaust.

getrdunn 11-08-2017 07:50 PM

You don't prop to peak torque if that's what your refeering to... well you can but will be a total turd.


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