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BBYSTWY 05-22-2018 02:46 PM

Hit a snag in my build..need help asap
 
Just got word from the engine builder that my stock 525 sc valve covers...the blue aluminum ones will not fit on the dart iron eagle heads I have...They said the gasket surface on the valve covers doesn't line up to the head sealing surface...

What are the least expensive options I have here?? this is about the last piece of the puzzle and don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on valve covers if I don't have to....

thanks

575cat 05-22-2018 04:12 PM

Teague

phragle 05-22-2018 05:56 PM

never heard that one before.... I have heard height problems, drip nib interference etc, but never the base being different...

Call Dart?? they should know what fits if their heads are odd shaped

BBYSTWY 05-22-2018 06:14 PM

Yea I guess there’s no flat casting on the inside/rocker side of the mounting bolts...that is where the gasket/o-ring sits on the Merc covers and I need some where the gaskets sits on the outside of the mounting bolts if that makes sense??

Would standard cheap covers off like ebay clear the exhaust?? I have cmi headers...over 200 bucks is a hard pill to swallow for valve covers lol

Griff 05-22-2018 11:01 PM

Run a regular gasket with a steel core on the head and keep the O ring gasket in the valve covers and put it on top of the other gasket.
Something like this https://www.summitracing.com/parts/f...make/chevrolet

BBYSTWY 05-23-2018 05:48 AM

So basically just stack the gaskets?? Have you tried this?? I'm only asking so I don't spend the money on these gaskets to have it not work...I guess I could use the gaskets regardless on new covers if it doesn't work

phragle 05-23-2018 06:01 AM

Man, not to rain on your parade, but if your building a blower motor and stressing over the cost of valve cover gaskets, life is going to get ugly.

JaayTeee 05-23-2018 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by BBYSTWY (Post 4627941)
So basically just stack the gaskets?? Have you tried this?? I'm only asking so I don't spend the money on these gaskets to have it not work...I guess I could use the gaskets regardless on new covers if it doesn't work

it works, I’ve done it a couple of times

BBYSTWY 05-23-2018 06:13 AM

I'm not stressing about it but would like to avoid unnecessary cost wherever possible...thanks for your input tho

Thanks Jay...I'll get them coming

cigrocket 05-23-2018 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4627927)
Run a regular gasket with a steel core on the head and keep the O ring gasket in the valve covers and put it on top of the other gasket.
Something like this https://www.summitracing.com/parts/f...make/chevrolet

This works, many have done this for years.

BBYSTWY 05-23-2018 11:40 AM

sounds good thanks!!

phragle 05-23-2018 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by BBYSTWY (Post 4627950)
I'm not stressing about it but would like to avoid unnecessary cost wherever possible...thanks for your input tho

Thanks Jay...I'll get them coming

i hear ya... If I had a nickel for everyday unnecessary dollar I have spent on my resin bucket, I could buy another resin bucket and be even further in the hole....

JaayTeee 05-23-2018 12:40 PM

If your 525 is a gen 6 might want to check the accessory mounting bolt holes in the end of the heads, chances are they’re 7/16 fine thread, and the darts will be 3/8 course thread, it’s easier to drill and tap this when the heads are off vs. assembled.

BBYSTWY 05-23-2018 12:56 PM

I'm so confused on gens at this point lol...it does not have the fuel pump provision...its has the pump on the water pump and it did not have the cam retainer plate..has the button on the cam...the heads are already assembled and on unfortunately...the valve cover gaskets were the last piece of the puzzle besides smoke checking the engine to look for leaks

Stewart

F-2 Speedy 05-23-2018 01:32 PM

BBY, that is a gen 6.........Im pretty sure my Edelbrock 525 heads are 3/8 on one end and 7/16 on the other.....leave it to Mercury for the 1 off head design.

BBYSTWY 05-23-2018 01:39 PM

haha yea figures...guess I'll have to buy some bolts :bsflag:

snapmorgan 05-23-2018 02:32 PM

Does it have an aluminum timing cover with 6 bolts? If so, it is a gen 6. If it has a cover with 10 bolts, it is a gen 5. If it is in fact a gen 6, I would advise against running a cam button on the aluminum timing cover. The retainer plate is a much better and safer setup.

F-2 Speedy 05-23-2018 02:40 PM

Correct ^^^ run a step nose cam

adk61 05-24-2018 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4627870)
never heard that one before.... I have heard height problems, drip nib interference etc, but never the base being different...

Call Dart?? they should know what fits if their heads are odd shaped

You have to machine the drip rail down to the same level as the stoppers on the outside of the bolt holes... at that point they'll drop on and seal like any other cover... been there done this got hat and T shirt

BBYSTWY 05-25-2018 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by snapmorgan (Post 4628036)
Does it have an aluminum timing cover with 6 bolts? If so, it is a gen 6. If it has a cover with 10 bolts, it is a gen 5. If it is in fact a gen 6, I would advise against running a cam button on the aluminum timing cover. The retainer plate is a much better and safer setup.

I believe it is the 10 bolt cover...I brought up to them about using the retainer plate and they said this will work just fine with the button...I'm just taking their word for it at this point I guess...hopefully it holds together!! hahaha


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