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ezstriper 09-18-2018 05:32 AM

Mark IV cam in Gen VI
 
Has anybody put a mark IV style cam in a gen VI block, want to try this to cure my reverse rotation issues been battling for years

BillK 09-18-2018 06:08 AM

I don't see why it shouldn't work. I am assuming you are talking about the gear drive setup. As far as I know the front of the blocks are the same. Biggest issue I see is trying to match the grind on the other engine. That and maybe clearing the timing cover but I just looked at one and it looks like there should be enough room.

Baja Rooster 09-18-2018 09:33 AM

I believe that you just need a cam button on the front and good to go. I’ve never done it, but I’ve asked about it and that was the answer I got.

kvogt 09-18-2018 10:18 AM

The timing cover is different.

BillK 09-18-2018 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Baja Rooster (Post 4649748)
I believe that you just need a cam button on the front and good to go. I’ve never done it, but I’ve asked about it and that was the answer I got.

The reverse rotation set up is gear drive and uses a plate similar to the Gen6 engines

ezstriper 09-19-2018 07:12 AM

Yes, done with this thing eating distributors(even the high $$ special bearing ones) looking to go back to what I had in the mark IV engines I had run trouble free for years. Had I known the deal on how they reversed the gen VI's and all the issues I've delt with for 8 years never would have done those. The old style flat tappet cams are still available(uses a special snout w/center bolt) for the gear to gear set up, but have not found someone who can grind a roller because no cores available unless you get 10. I know all about the timing cover be different and clearance is going to be a issue, may end up machining the gear set down ?? Milodon makes a extra clearance cover to run a std double roller chain setup so I know that will give me a little more. My one concern is the retainer plate for the cam, the gen VI uses one and the cam is cut for that, the gear drive setup also used a plate on the mark IV blocks which one other one did, so sure its needed because of the helical cut gears, just not sure if the mark IV style cam will work with the gen VI retainer plate..

BillK 09-19-2018 03:02 PM

EZ,

My warehouse has a set of the gears. I will try to get them to measure the thickness on them. The bolt pattern for the plate is the same, not sure of the thickness but I can easily find out. I have several Gen6 blocks and timing covers I can look at for you.

By the way, do you do any hand pin striping ?

Camalot 09-19-2018 05:57 PM

I looked into this last year had an early cam and tried to retro fit it to a gen 6 your have to use the sprockets from the gen 4 crank and cam along with the chain. Then machine the front cover for a button stop.

ezstriper 09-20-2018 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by BillK (Post 4650034)
EZ,

My warehouse has a set of the gears. I will try to get them to measure the thickness on them. The bolt pattern for the plate is the same, not sure of the thickness but I can easily find out. I have several Gen6 blocks and timing covers I can look at for you.

By the way, do you do any hand pin striping ?

Bill that would be awesome, called comp yesterday see if there was any shout of them grinding a roller with ft snout to accept the gear to gear setup, they said they could if they had a core, which he thought they had(showed in inventory) but did not, and had no idea on getting another. I slipped a mark IV cam I had here into a gen VI block, seemed fine, it sat flush with block so looked like retainer plate would work as well(all the gear to gear ones used a retainer like a gen VI). again, thanks for the help !!!!

BillK 09-20-2018 07:09 PM

Will do. I will give them a call on Friday.


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