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Thebossbultsma 12-26-2018 02:11 PM

509 cams and lifters help.
 
I have 2 502 mags I rebuilt last year

looking for more power
they dyno at 440 hp at 4700 536 tq at 3400 the way they sit now
there now 509,s with gill performance exhaust
509
088 heads
converted to holly 850 body carbs
factory 502 mag cams
oem lifters
dont remember springs
1.7 rockers with stud girdles
I need to talk to someone about a good cam selection with lifters and springs please and thank you.

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GETTINBYE 12-26-2018 03:18 PM

Crane 168731 or 168741 cam.
Comp 929 springs
GM lifters should work

What intake? Can't tell 100% by the pic.

getrdunn 12-26-2018 03:47 PM

The famous 741 cam would be my choice as it's proven over and over again in that cubic inch range. If you wanna wake it up find a good set of 305 to 315 cc aftermarket heads. Not sure what HP your looking for however 600 plus is easily achievable.

Griff 12-27-2018 01:17 AM

Crane 741 cam and Isky 8005 springs would be my choice.

sutphen 30 12-27-2018 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4665475)
Crane 741 cam and Isky 8005 springs would be my choice.

that or maybe,the 8.1L cam thats 240/248 double swap,,works really well in warmed up 502's.

MILD THUNDER 12-27-2018 08:38 AM

A cleanup on the heads and a larger intake valve will help with the cam upgrade. The 2.19 valve is small for a 502 bore.

mike tkach 12-27-2018 09:10 AM

the heads really are holding it back,a set of engine quest heads and a crane 741 cam will get you 600 hp with 9.5 to 1 c/r.

getrdunn 12-27-2018 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4665498)
that or maybe,the 8.1L cam thats 240/248 double swap,,works really well in warmed up 502's.

what's the lift on that cam?

sutphen 30 12-27-2018 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4665558)


what's the lift on that cam?

.621/.632

ph1971 12-28-2018 06:58 PM

That will wake it up!

Bajaorlando 12-29-2018 04:57 AM

The stock lifters can be used on a 741?

getrdunn 12-29-2018 12:08 PM

What gen engines are these? If I'm not mistaking though the mags where baby hyd rollers. If time for engine rebuild OT might consider replacing regardless.

getrdunn 12-29-2018 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4665498)
that or maybe,the 8.1L cam thats 240/248 double swap,,works really well in warmed up 502's.

Thats good to know and doesn't seem t oget talked about much. What's est peak hp in a 502-509 with that cam? 5,700/5,800? Just taking a stab at it.

Baja Rooster 12-29-2018 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Bajaorlando (Post 4665812)
The stock lifters can be used on a 741?

The stock ZZ502 lifters were a great fit on my 525EFI cam which has identical specs to the 741. I don’t know if the base circle is different though. My lifters had very few hours on them so I reused them.

mike tkach 12-29-2018 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Baja Rooster (Post 4665880)


The stock ZZ502 lifters were a great fit on my 525EFI cam which has identical specs to the 741. I don’t know if the base circle is different though. My lifters had very few hours on them so I reused them.

base circle is the same,only thing different is the lsa,74 1 is 112,525 efi cam is 114.

tripps 12-29-2018 07:16 PM

Cam
 
What can is the 8.1L cam???

Ryan00TJ 12-29-2018 07:18 PM

http://www.cpgnation.com/comp-cams-xtreme-marine-525-efi-camshaft/

No need to reinvent the wheel. 525EFI cam works great for 502/509 builds. Comp grinds it if you can't find a Merc takeout. Your 088 heads are what needs attention and upgraded. Power is in the heads.


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