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Papasmurf 01-12-2019 10:03 AM

Reman 540 Mag Bravo 4
 
Anyone here that has this engine ever changed the 4600 RPM rev limiter? There is a dealer in New Jersey that says they have, JJ Performance, but their website is no longer active.
Replaced my 900 hour 502s with a couple of these last summer, and love them. Boat was down for 2 weeks max doing the change over, Just plug and play. Rejet carbs and off they went.

Griff 01-13-2019 12:39 PM

You must have a TB V ignition. Change it to a TB IV which has no rev limiter or go with a DUI ignition system.

Baja Rooster 01-13-2019 12:55 PM

I’m a big fan of the DUI system. Simple and effective.

Papasmurf 01-13-2019 04:57 PM

Yes, It has the Thunderbolt V system with knock control. That's a GM product, correct ? Cant find any info on internet on V System Module or where to buy them. What part number has the higher rev limiter.

Griff 01-14-2019 01:18 AM

First, No TB V's should have a 4600rpm rev limiter. The min would be 4750rpms for the 7.4's.

Exactly what engines did the ignitions come off of??

BUP 01-14-2019 01:54 AM

Merc 540 reman 4 v carb -- max rpms is 4600 rpms and limits at 4700 -- T bolt V with knock control module and spark control module - ICM

The T bolt IV and T bolt V are the same exact distributors / caps and rotors and use the same exact ignition sensor under the cap & rotor

Timing for this app is 10 degrees BTDC
87 octane pump gas.

I have worked on 2 only but i do know about these fairly well..

Knot 4 Me 01-14-2019 07:19 AM

Must have a boom stick for a camshaft to have such a low RPM limit. RV cam! Were these things geared more towards heavy arse cruisers or something?

Papasmurf 01-14-2019 03:07 PM

Found the guys, they are Clauss Marine in New Jersey. They are getting me a V module with a 5200 limiter.

Here is what they have on their website about the Reman 540:

This engine is the biggest secret in Mercruiser's engine line up. It is rated at 440HP from Merc but what they don't mention is that itis rated at 4600 rpm. The reason they had to limit the horse power rating on this engine is because if they rated it at what it really makes it would fall into the Merc Racing line of engines. This would mean a different pricing level along with being restricted to Merc Racing dealers only, instead of being available to all Merc dealers. The engine does have a factory rev limiter set at 4600 rpm so if more power isn't necessary for you just leave it be. However to unlock the true potential of this engine we can supply you with the 5200 rpm ignition module which takes this engine OVER 500 horsepower. 520 horsepower to be exact and BIG torque. Add an aftermarket exhaust and pick up another 30 horses!!!!

We know this because we put one of these on our Superflow engine dyno. After building countless 540CID engines and knowing how easy it is to get 600hp out of one, (even with stock rectangular port heads, which is exactly what this motor has). We could not fathom this motor only making 440hp. We knew the compression is on the low side but it just did not add up. So when one of our customers ordered on we threw it on the dyno before installing it. That is when we realized it had a 4600rpm limiter. After one call to our Merc rep he let us know the deal and gave us the part number for the 5200rpm module. This motor is 100% complete!! A true plug and play with a warranty.

So if you want Merc Racing performance with out Merc Racing price along with a 1 year warranty (3 year Available) This is the engine for you!!!

All engines are shipped via freight truck. Please call us for an accurate shipping quote.

BUP 01-14-2019 03:59 PM

This engine is under rated on the hp listed to begin with, it is 470 or 490 hp, forgot which one. It has 560 tq in stock form at 3600 rpms.. The valve train is nothing to write home about. It has stamped steel rockers and 800 cfm carb. The camshaft is a limited bump stick.

The t bolt module is nothing special it can be bought thru any Merc dealer across the world.

The pricing level retail is 20 K for this and mostly 21 K. I can look it up to be exact. It is under the reman side for Merc plus its a standard sized block. This is some of the reasons for Merc listing not persay under the racing side. Plus its cheaper to paint it all black for them as well and has a Carb,

with all this said no way changing the module ALONE is going to go from 440 hp to 520 hp I will call them out on this as PURE marketing of an 80 hp increase for a 400 dollar outdated module and ignition set up along with that installed cam, low buck valve train and heads ? apple to apples dyno testing just by changing the module. hmmmm

Papasmurf 01-14-2019 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4668065)
This engine is under rated on the hp listed to begin with, it is 470 or 490 hp, forgot which one. It has 560 tq in stock form at 3600 rpms.. The valve train is nothing to write home about. It has stamped steel rockers and 800 cfm carb. The camshaft is a limited bump stick.

The t bolt module is nothing special it can be bought thru any Merc dealer across the world.

The pricing level retail is 20 K for this and mostly 21 K. I can look it up to be exact. It is under the reman side for Merc plus its a standard sized block. This is some of the reasons for Merc listing not persay under the racing side. Plus its cheaper to paint it all black for them as well and has a Carb,

with all this said no way changing the module ALONE is going to go from 440 hp to 520 hp I will call them out on this as PURE marketing of an 80 hp increase for a 400 dollar outdated module and ignition set up along with that installed cam, low buck valve train and heads ? apple to apples dyno testing just by changing the module. hmmmm

I would be more interested in what the engine dynoed at 4600 when they tested. I agree, the engine is underrated for sure.I have a 1993 35 Lighting Non Step Hull and I believe the stock carbed 502s where making around 380 HP stock. Boat still had the 25P 3 Blade Mirage props that came on it from the factory. With 900 hours, they still turned 5200 and pushed the boat along around 68 to 69 mph.
With the new engines, I'm spinning 28P Bravos agaisnt the rev limiter at 4600. That gets me 72 all day, any day, with 4 people and full load of fuel. Im happy with that, but always looking for cheap HP. Gonna try some 30P Bravos this spring just to take the engines of the limiter. I figure to loose 3 or 400 RPM and the speed stay roughly the same.

Oh, and if you shop around, and give your local dealer a chance to "match" some pricing, you can get this motors for under 16K. Of course I bought 2 at a time.

BUP 01-14-2019 08:31 PM

Scroll down to the 540 part number 8m0113304 Merc reman guide and parts guide. that 540 is listed at 450 hp and rpms range is 4600 - 5000 rpms and max rpms is 5000 It is a brand new partial engine almost complete

Also all T bolt V modules rev limited 100 rpms over max rpms

Like I said that company whom is posted that miracle 80 hp gain and rev limits at 4600 is a sweet marketing talk.

10 hp increase at WOT 5000 rpms per Merc listing - 8M0113304 and I can buy all these engines thru Merc / Merc reman. Just saying link of the engines

The 540 with 440 hp and WOT is 4600 part number is 8m008599 is what you have from your post. remaned engine

https://embed.widencdn.net/pdf/plus/...n.pdf?u=orhjei

BUP 01-14-2019 08:49 PM

here is the specs thru Merc -- 540 brand NEW 450 hp 4600 thru 5000 rpms max brand new block and heads. Cast iron heads I almost sure thru Dart. This engine build is fairly new thru them within a year if I recall.

https://p.widencdn.net/koh7wg/540-Br...e-Engine-450HP

smokediver 01-15-2019 06:47 AM

That’s a different engine than the remanned 540. The remanned engine has a 502 cam , heads , stamped rockers. That is listed as having bigger valves and roller rockers. I am curious what cam they chose for this engine.

BUP 01-15-2019 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by smokediver (Post 4668119)
That’s a different engine than the remanned 540. The remanned engine has a 502 cam , heads , stamped rockers. That is listed as having bigger valves and roller rockers. I am curious what cam they chose for this engine.


I realize its not exactly the same but there is many parts that is shared here.

The 450 hp --- 4600 - 5000 rpms engine has a New block - new Dart heads - roller rockers and so on and its only netting 10 more hp was basically my point to show that 540 inwhich carries 400 more RPMS . 4600 - 5000 rpms .

Also you can get the 440hp remaned in a longblock form as well.

Also for the record the 440 hp reman and the 450 hp new and the 440 hp longblock are listed under Mercury Racing as replacements for hp 500 and hp 540 REPOWERS

Swamplizard 01-15-2019 02:09 PM

how much? $18k each?

BUP 01-15-2019 05:27 PM

The 440 hp reman drop complete retails for 19,306 . I had to look it up because I forgot and I seen Michigan Motors whom always wants people to think they are giving out great deals lists it at almost 22 K retail but selling for almost 19 K.

Common on their part to make all think wow what a great deal they are giving out online. Laughable when full retail is 19 306. Plus they have great support as well. Right if you believe that one to. Never drank their koolaide

And for the the ones selling this engine at 16 K good luck for them because they are NOT making anything from doing so, not one dime. The heros in the industry. Seems like there is many of them around. Not good for the industry period because after the sale you are completely on your own period.

BUP 01-15-2019 05:32 PM

https://www.michiganmotorz.com/mercr...hp-p-4324.html

Hoeker 12-03-2022 08:00 AM

Sorry to bump an old thread. I am interested in additional experiences with the merc 540 carb plus engines. Part # 8M0085999. I have them in my new to me Formula 370ss. They were installed by the former owner after hurting the 525EFI's. I repropped the boat and have it running pretty well but I'm trying to find some HP without sacrificing dependability. I looked into exhaust but was told I wouldn't gain much by EMI. The carbs were setup horribly wrong from MerCruiser so i rejetted them for last season and now have them getting wetflow tuned. It seems like getting 4-600rpm should be easy swapping the ignition but maybe the valve train should be improved first? roller rockers and heavier springs could be done in the boat? TIA

TomZ 12-03-2022 02:16 PM

I have no experience on these engines, but I think it’s pretty safe to say that the valvetrain can handle another 4-600 rpm. The 502 MPIs could run 5k rpm all day long with stamped rockers and tiling springs (the cam though was really small for a bbc). I’d say run it with the higher rev limit before tearing into the top end.

bigboat28 03-31-2025 08:26 PM

I know it's an older thread but any body who had these motors, what did you think of them?

Hoeker 03-31-2025 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by bigboat28 (Post 4923322)
I know it's an older thread but any body who had these motors, what did you think of them?

I only ran mine about 2 seasons but was very happy with them once I had the carbs dialed in by a pro. Straight from Merc/Holley the carbs were garbage, for starters the jetting wasn't even close, the 2 engines were about 10 steps off from each other. My carb guy said all holley's need tuning new so no surprises there.
In my case the boat was repowered from 525's so any engine with less torque would not have worked with my drives. I ended up with a very nice setup that ran quickly at lower rpms so it was quiet and efficient as well. The new owners reported back after a solid year with zero issues so that was great to hear as well.
If you're after the torque and can work with the lower rpm I'd say go for it. If you're looking at them as a base engine to build that seems reasonable as well. Good luck


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