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mggdoors 05-02-2019 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4685000)
One thing about the stock, car engines, is they have an engine management system. My 6.4L hemi is 10.9:1 stock. It also is very sensitive to octane, air temperature, fuel mixture etc. Could see some short term knock retard just from going from one gas stations 93 to another brand. It runs great, thanks to a modern engine management system that as many failsafes working nonstop to prevent detonation. Basically, they run it on the edge from the factory , and "tuning" doesnt do a whole lot for them. The engines run near peak performance thanks to all those sensors.

That beIng said, prob not where id want to be with a carburetor setup and basic ignition setup. I don't think 11:1 compression is "mild" by any means, for a pump gas boat engine. Id say its a bit closer to borderline , and a bad tank of gas away from knocking itself to death. LS or not, detonation doesnt care what you name the engine. Id keep a close on that tune . What kind of egts were you seeing from cyl to cyl?

Carb motors can usually take more timing. Already put a safety net in before coming off dyno Max run was 32 backed out to 29. Also implemented a fail safe for water temp to reduce timing in the event of clog or impeller loss.

mggdoors 05-02-2019 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4685000)
One thing about the stock, car engines, is they have an engine management system. My 6.4L hemi is 10.9:1 stock. It also is very sensitive to octane, air temperature, fuel mixture etc. Could see some short term knock retard just from going from one gas stations 93 to another brand. It runs great, thanks to a modern engine management system that as many failsafes working nonstop to prevent detonation. Basically, they run it on the edge from the factory , and "tuning" doesnt do a whole lot for them. The engines run near peak performance thanks to all those sensors.

That beIng said, prob not where id want to be with a carburetor setup and basic ignition setup. I don't think 11:1 compression is "mild" by any means, for a pump gas boat engine. Id say its a bit closer to borderline , and a bad tank of gas away from knocking itself to death. LS or not, detonation doesnt care what you name the engine. Id keep a close on that tune . What kind of egts were you seeing from cyl to cyl?

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e38b439ccb.jpg

mike tkach 05-02-2019 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by mggdoors (Post 4684995)

Good guess. I would say that I am pretty much at the limit of stock ls3 heads on a 4.030 bore as far as hp goes, maybe a few more if I wasnt running marine application. Valve shrouding is hurting me so the only thing left to do is porting. I am done playing around with them for the summer and am going boating. At the end of the season, mid november lol, gotta love Arizona, I will be doing cnc heads and roller rockers. Results will be posted again.

just for the hell of it,go to post#4.

mggdoors 05-02-2019 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4685004)
just for the hell of it,go to post#4.

Lol. Touche

mggdoors 05-03-2019 10:39 AM

Here is a 468 blower motor on the same dyno just for comparison sake. You can decide if it is greedy or not. I believe he said this was 731 cam https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...573c66deb.jpeg

hogie roll 05-03-2019 11:07 AM

Maybe they’ll be faster than 525s

SB 05-03-2019 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by mggdoors (Post 4685119)
Here is a 468 blower motor on the same dyno just for comparison sake. You can decide if it is greedy or not. I believe he said this was 731 cam

Show the part of your sheets that shows fuel flow and I will answer this for you.

MILD THUNDER 05-03-2019 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by mggdoors (Post 4685119)
Here is a 468 blower motor on the same dyno just for comparison sake. You can decide if it is greedy or not. I believe he said this was 731 cam https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...573c66deb.jpeg

right about what a stock 525sc merc makes with a cam upgrade...

mggdoors 05-03-2019 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4685124)
Maybe they’ll be faster than 525s

Im sure they will considering I have the ability to rev it if I choose to

mggdoors 05-03-2019 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4685125)
Show the part of your sheets that shows fuel flow and I will answer this for you.

This is all I have on these. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0be715f9a2.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2ac642fd5f.jpg


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