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Originally Posted by Wasted Income
(Post 4690473)
I have two things to add to this thread
1: https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...02e8a5e02e.jpg 2: LS vs BBC weights A couple years ago a buddy weighed several shortblocks for fun. Same day, same scale LS1 = 180 lbs LC9 = 200 lbs LY6 = 310 lbs 393 stroker LS = 310 lbs 540 BBC dart iron block = 360 lbs Well, I also pulled the BBC out of my boat on a farm scale and it weighed in a little over 1180 lbs fully dressed. I then dropped my 408ci LS back into the same boat, on the same scale, and it weighed in at 540 lbs fully dressed. I then changed to an iron block, which added 96 lbs to the engine Bringing it in at roughly 640 lbs fully dressed. That's a weight savings of roughly 540 lbs over the big block. Anybody that tries to say that there isn't a significant weight savings going LS is very misinformed. |
Originally Posted by corey331
(Post 4690581)
Well, I also pulled the BBC out of my boat on a farm scale and it weighed in a little over 1180 lbs fully dressed. I then dropped my 408ci LS back into the same boat, on the same scale, and it weighed in at 540 lbs fully dressed. I then changed to an iron block, which added 96 lbs to the engine Bringing it in at roughly 640 lbs fully dressed. That's a weight savings of roughly 540 lbs over the big block. Anybody that tries to say that there isn't a significant weight savings going LS is very misinformed.
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Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
(Post 4690582)
That is huge, how much better did the boat perform and ride? Where do you boat?
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Originally Posted by corey331
(Post 4690623)
I was actually surprised at how much better the boat handled, especially in rougher waters. With the aluminum block, the boat was a little out of balance, but the extra 96 lbs of the iron block made it just right. I boat at Lake Cumberland in Kentucky. I know that doesn't get as rough as most places, but on a busy weekend in front of State Dock/Jamestown it turns into a washing machine that can beat you up pretty bad. With the LS I can set it at 45-50mph and it just bounces easily from wave to wave. It stays up on top of the waves with the light weight motor, where it would want to go down and plow through them with the BBC. As far as performance goes, I have seen a best of 77mph GPS, that was with not a lot in the boat and not much fuel. In everyday trim it will run 74-75mph GPS with a 24p Bravo. I still need to do some playing with props as I'm seeing those speeds at 5500-5700 rpms. I want to get it up to 6000-6100 where the engine makes peak power. Then engine made 577hp 530ftlbs and is in a 253 Checkmate Convincor. For what is a non-radical N/A small block in that size boat, I'm really happy. And even though it's carb'd, it sips fuel, and the sound it makes is amazing!!!!!
Do you have the dyno numbers on the LS and any reversion issues? |
Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
(Post 4690582)
That is huge, how much better did the boat perform and ride? Where do you boat?
My 272 Islander is really bow heavy with the helm probably a good 8” forward over the performance model. The ci manifolds and heads have been replaced with aluminum and it takes a LOT of power and prop to get the bow unstuck from the water. I never ran it with the stock ci stuff but the balance is definitely light in the stern. |
Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
(Post 4690654)
I have boated on Cumberland a few times, used to live in Indianapolis. The BBC you had, what was it and what did you run? I assume something like a 454 mag or maybe 502 Mag?
Do you have the dyno numbers on the LS and any reversion issues? |
Not bad Corey, the 93 octane would make it unusable here. To hard to find on the water, and a lot of times we do more then 100 miles round trip or like on a Keys trip they never come out of the water for days.
That has been the biggest issue as I look at different motors etc, they have to be able to run on 90. 90 Non ethanol is what most marinas have down here. |
Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
(Post 4690662)
Not bad Corey, the 93 octane would make it unusable here. To hard to find on the water, and a lot of times we do more then 100 miles round trip or like on a Keys trip they never come out of the water for days.
That has been the biggest issue as I look at different motors etc, they have to be able to run on 90. 90 Non ethanol is what most marinas have down here. |
Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
(Post 4690662)
Not bad Corey, the 93 octane would make it unusable here. To hard to find on the water, and a lot of times we do more then 100 miles round trip or like on a Keys trip they never come out of the water for days.
That has been the biggest issue as I look at different motors etc, they have to be able to run on 90. 90 Non ethanol is what most marinas have down here. |
Tested boat today. Runs great. Slight problem. Lack of weight in rear will require reprop. Gets on plane very easy now. Once on plane you can be going straight and it will go whichever way it feels is the best way to crash. Did many drifts today. Ass end every time. Even was going straight at one point the it darted right so I corrected left and it decided to go right even more. Scariest ****ing boat ride ive ever had the pleasure of going on. Main areas its worst is 4k and below. Still starts to drift around 80. Have not pushed them yet as it is unsafe. Will be testing 4 blades next or props turning out. Highest rpm thus far is 5100 and climbing fast. Not the blower motors I had but fast none the less. |
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