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rak rua 01-21-2019 06:48 AM

Bravo power trim electrical problem...?
 
A little help needed please.....
Boat hasn't been used for a while and I know the batteries are low. On the ramp, I tried to trim the drive up and I could hear a relay clicking but that's all, no pump. Backed her down the ramp and the engine fired up but only j u s t. Engine running fine, volt gauge moved to 13 volts with a few more revs. Drive still wouldn't move, only clicking from a relay.

Decided to give the boat a run anyway and after 5 minutes running with the drive tucked a little, I tried the trim again and she worked. Had a good run for 2 hours, all rev ranges but plenty between 3500-4000 and the trim worked perfectly.

Is it possibl the batteries were too low to activate the trim pump but could just turn the engine over? After some running and a bit of charge coming back to the batteries, she was fine. It's like there's a 'low voltage sensor' on the pump. Maybe it's just an electrical issue and it was a coincidence the problem cleared after a decent run. I don't know but I'm sure someone here will know all about it.

It's a 496ho and a Bravo 1 X, everything stock standard.

Than you, RR

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14 apache 01-21-2019 07:06 AM

If it cranked over the trim would of worked. Check connections sounds like like a bad one and when it warmed up it got better. It may never happen again.

14 apache 01-21-2019 09:30 AM

If you have a test light keep it in the boat also a set of jumpers if your by yourself the get the light where you can see it. If it's not broke hard to fix it.

Crude Intentions 01-21-2019 10:18 AM

Could also be dirty contacts in the solenoid. I have one like that. Gonna replace solenoid for piece of mind. It takes me hitting the button several times to get it to go sometimes.

Ryan00TJ 01-21-2019 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Crude Intentions (Post 4669025)
Could also be dirty contacts in the solenoid. I have one like that. Gonna replace solenoid for piece of mind. It takes me hitting the button several times to get it to go sometimes.

Yep, the click you heard indicates the solenoid working. Due to corrosion. Saltwater app right? The contacts did not pass enough electrical current to your trim pump. Common problem. It will be hit/miss until it quits working. Either clean or replace your solenoid.

GLENAMY 242SS 01-21-2019 11:43 AM

The question begging to be asked is "Does the up and down act the same?"
If both are same it's a wiring/connection /voltage related problem, if only the up or down most likely a solenoid related problem.
Remember
blue=up as in blue sky and
green=down as in grass on the ground.

Sydwayz 01-21-2019 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by GLENAMY 242SS (Post 4669048)
The question begging to be asked is "Does the up and down act the same?"
If both are same it's a wiring/connection /voltage related problem, if only the up or down most likely a solenoid related problem.
Remember
blue=up as in blue sky and
green=down as in grass on the ground.

Yep, and if you are replacing one, go ahead and replace the other one.
3 bolts hold the 2 of them in.

You could also have some corrosion/issue with the trim buttons and their connections. They can and do corrode too.

rak rua 01-21-2019 06:35 PM

Thank you all for the good responses, along the lines of what I expected. I'll have a closer look tomorrow, cleaning terminals and back of the switches too. I'm not a great tool man but I can at least clean corrosion from terminals. Beyond that, I'll probably get the Merc dealer to check and replace solenoid as necessary.

Good point about working up AND down, didn't pay much attention because it was already down so I kept hitting 'up'. Something else to check tomorrow.

Thanks again, RR.

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Diamond Dave 01-21-2019 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by rak rua (Post 4669129)
Thank you all for the good responses, along the lines of what I expected. I'll have a closer look tomorrow, cleaning terminals and back of the switches too. I'm not a great tool man but I can at least clean corrosion from terminals. Beyond that, I'll probably get the Merc dealer to check and replace solenoid as necessary.

Good point about working up AND down, didn't pay much attention because it was already down so I kept hitting 'up'. Something else to check tomorrow.

Thanks again, RR.

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The solenoid crosses to a generic one most auto parts should carry in case your mechanic doesn't have one FYI

BUP 01-21-2019 08:08 PM

condensation and or corrosion can cause this. Secondly make sure the ground for it is tight and very clean No corrosion period, Make sure the power wire is the same. Loose connections can do that as well. Also check the solenoid connections.

When stacked wires for the battery connections - Biggest laid down first to the smallest terminals stacked is how all that should be connected.. Just saying

Long periods of NON use of the trim is common for this to take place. And sometimes just checking what was mention above -- all of it making sure everything is good and a strong battery - one is good to go alot of times. If it keeps happening especially in short order, then I would change out the up and down solenoids .

GLENAMY 242SS 01-22-2019 03:19 PM

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rak rua 01-22-2019 10:46 PM

Checked everything today and it worked perfectly! Two rocker switches (trim and trailer) on the dash worked properly as did the trim in the handle. Checked all connections on the pump, nice and clean, no corrosion and everything is tight.

I assume it's an electrical gremlin and will likely happen again. If so, I'll call the dealer and suggest they replace a couple of solenoids.

Thanks for all the replies, I'd say your advice is spot on.

RR

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BUP 01-22-2019 10:59 PM

Long periods of NON use of the trim is common for this to take place. making sure everything is good and a strong battery - one is good to go alot of times. If it keeps happening especially in short order, then I would change out the up and down solenoids .[/QUOTE]\

Strong battery and keeping condensation and any formed corrosion at bay you most likely will be good to go - Like I said NON use of the trim is common what you had taking place.

rak rua 01-22-2019 11:33 PM

Yep, guilty. The boat had not been in the water for 12 months. Every couple of months, I run the engine on the hose, turn the wheel lock to lock, raise/lower drive and tabs but I know that's not enough. Giving it a good run blows out the cobwebs and works every part of the boat. Great to get on the water, I even took photos to prove it!

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