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ttrm007 01-22-2019 08:44 AM

Rigging Suggestions
 
So much expertise here, I thought i would throw out a request for anything you guys have done or seen that really stands out as nice, clean, functional. Just as a few examples, I'm trying to figure out where to put EVERYTHING like:The obvious place for a bunch of this stuff is on the bukkhead in front of engines but that certainly takes up some of the precious space to access things. The first pic is my boat. Second has example fuel filter location on port head and do kind of like that. I may even see if I could make a bracket that would allow me to install both fuel and oil filter on front of head. Seems like a VERY convenient place to change them and keep things clean? I may see if I can squeeze the fuel pressure regulator in there as well? My alternator is mounted low on port of motors so I kind of have that entire port head area open.

Don't just focus on the items I listed... where do you guys put stuff?

Every wire and hose is being installed new so I have really no limitations.

Thanks,
Tom

F-2 Speedy 01-22-2019 09:04 AM

Did you get the header clearance issue solved ?? I have some brackets that mount to the rear of the head if you need some, good for regulator and ignition boxes. my fuel pumps are mounted on the stringers like a lot of boats, you want them as low as you can get them

ttrm007 01-22-2019 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4669196)
Did you get the header clearance issue solved ?? I have some brackets that mount to the rear of the head if you need some, good for regulator and ignition boxes. my fuel pumps are mounted on the stringers like a lot of boats, you want them as low as you can get them

No resolution on headers yet... Probably will be new set and hopefully I can find someone that can use a brand new set and I can sell.

didn't think about low fuel pumps. Makes sense. What kind of head brackets do you have? I'm interested. Pics? Price?

Thanks

F-2 Speedy 01-22-2019 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by ttrm007 (Post 4669293)
No resolution on headers yet... Probably will be new set and hopefully I can find someone that can use a brand new set and I can sell.

didn't think about low fuel pumps. Makes sense. What kind of head brackets do you have? I'm interested. Pics? Price?

Thanks

I have these, https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9395c6a0e1.jpg

F-2 Speedy 01-22-2019 08:27 PM

I can extend these and also put in the cannon plug bracket welded in before shipping if needed

Katanna 01-22-2019 09:52 PM

There are brackets that allow you to mount the oil and fuel filter together. Sorry these are the best pictures i have of mine and the boat is currently under shrink.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...25cb28fe9f.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...25c3b56d89.jpg

ttrm007 01-23-2019 09:21 AM

Also cool brackets. That looks nice and clean and easy to change filters. With fuel filter mounted on motor, does that mean you are pushing through filter versus pulling through? Fuel pump mounted low near tank and no filter before it from tank? My original plan was to pull through so contaminants don't get into pump?

ttrm007 01-23-2019 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4669297)
I can extend these and also put in the cannon plug bracket welded in before shipping if needed

Here comes my ignorance but what is a cannon plug?

F-2 Speedy 01-23-2019 09:27 AM

the round plug on the engine harness where the helm plugs in.

AusScarab29 01-23-2019 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by ttrm007 (Post 4669293)
No resolution on headers yet... Probably will be new set and hopefully I can find someone that can use a brand new set and I can sell.

didn't think about low fuel pumps. Makes sense. What kind of head brackets do you have? I'm interested. Pics? Price?

Thanks

I may be interested in your headers
what make are they

bck 01-24-2019 11:45 AM

Unfortunately a lot of the rigging is going to be unique to your particular setup and preferences. Then throw in the variables of parts availability, finances, machining access, fabrication ability and how closely (if at all) you want to adhere to uscg type regs, etc. Seems like doing it wrong once or even worse, paying someone to do it wrong once is the best way to learn how to do it right.

You mentioned liking the fuel filter mount in the picture you posted. Is that location going to allow you to access the spark plugs once the engines are installed?

Fuel pump is usually mounted low so it holds its prime when shut off and yes they push better than they pull, but if you want the pump protected from debris you'll mount a filter ahead of the pump. You also want the engine protected from pump debris which can happen if the vanes take a crap so it's common to mount a larger micron filter before the pump and a smaller micron after the pump. The cleanest way to handle after the pump components is to get a fuel log with the filter attached directly to the inlet and a bypass regulator attached directly to the far end of the log. Those components won't even be visible when the flame arrestor is in place and won't require any brackets.

Orient all your hose clamps so the screw heads are lined up for access after everything is installed. I used constant tension hose clamps on all the larger diameter 1 1/4 hose. I also installed spiral hose protectors anywhere a hose came in contact with anything including if it touched another hose.

I went to larger diameter plug wires just for the added abrasion resistance and ohm tested all of them before installation.

If you want the wiring done cleanly and correctly you'll get a new harness and build it yourself using quality ring terminal, adhesive shrink, service loops (or at least extra wire tucked neatly away) and wire loom everything.

ttrm007 01-24-2019 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by AusScarab29 (Post 4669413)

I may be interested in your headers
what make are they

Lightning headers. Brand new. Only put on for fitment. Check out their site for current pricing. Obviously you could end up getting a deal for my mistake!

ttrm007 01-24-2019 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by bck (Post 4669562)
Unfortunately a lot of the rigging is going to be unique to your particular setup and preferences. Then throw in the variables of parts availability, finances, machining access, fabrication ability and how closely (if at all) you want to adhere to uscg type regs, etc. Seems like doing it wrong once or even worse, paying someone to do it wrong once is the best way to learn how to do it right.

You mentioned liking the fuel filter mount in the picture you posted. Is that location going to allow you to access the spark plugs once the engines are installed?

Fuel pump is usually mounted low so it holds its prime when shut off and yes they push better than they pull, but if you want the pump protected from debris you'll mount a filter ahead of the pump. You also want the engine protected from pump debris which can happen if the vanes take a crap so it's common to mount a larger micron filter before the pump and a smaller micron after the pump. The cleanest way to handle after the pump components is to get a fuel log with the filter attached directly to the inlet and a bypass regulator attached directly to the far end of the log. Those components won't even be visible when the flame arrestor is in place and won't require any brackets.

Orient all your hose clamps so the screw heads are lined up for access after everything is installed. I used constant tension hose clamps on all the larger diameter 1 1/4 hose. I also installed spiral hose protectors anywhere a hose came in contact with anything including if it touched another hose.

I went to larger diameter plug wires just for the added abrasion resistance and ohm tested all of them before installation.

If you want the wiring done cleanly and correctly you'll get a new harness and build it yourself using quality ring terminal, adhesive shrink, service loops (or at least extra wire tucked neatly away) and wire loom everything.

Thanks! I'm making the new harness. Nearly there. Im with you in the clamps and the shrink terminals. I am also using deusch waterproof plug connectors. Plan to have a single plug on each engine that has all wires for gauges, ignition, etc.

Access to plugs will for sure be checked!!

I found some split nylon braided wire loom that I really like and will cover much of wire in it. I like the service loop and hadn't thought of it!

I'm sure I'll make some mistakes but the input here is helping avoid some!

AusScarab29 02-08-2019 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by ttrm007 (Post 4669631)
Lightning headers. Brand new. Only put on for fitment. Check out their site for current pricing. Obviously you could end up getting a deal for my mistake!

Are they stainless steel,I boat in salt water
I need them to fit a 496

ttrm007 02-11-2019 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by AusScarab29 (Post 4671859)


Are they stainless steel,I boat in salt water
I need them to fit a 496

Headers are for a small block Chevy so won't fit 496


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