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F-2 Speedy 06-19-2019 11:51 AM

proping an 89 flat deck
 
The boat in an 89 TG with notch transom, is 575-600 hp enough power to spin 28 4 blades to 5000-5200 ?

14 apache 06-19-2019 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4692751)
The boat in an 89 TG with notch transom, is 575-600 hp enough power to spin 28 4 blades to 5000-5200 ?

that might be tuff one. Maybe a little heavy on pitch.

F-2 Speedy 06-19-2019 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4692753)

that might be tuff one. Maybe a little heavy on pitch.

kinda what I was thinking, It has 23's on it now and reving to 6k+, maybe a mirage 25 + 3 blade ? engines are 580's dart intakes and 1100 dom's

14 apache 06-19-2019 12:09 PM

  1. is it going high 70s

F-2 Speedy 06-19-2019 12:35 PM

He's not sure no speedo working in the boat, Id guess 68-72 but just a guess, I'm just trying to get the rev's down and pick up a little speed

14 apache 06-19-2019 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4692761)
He's not sure no speedo working in the boat, Id guess 68-72 but just a guess, I'm just trying to get the rev's down and pick up a little speed

33 Apache I had did 68mph at 5400rpm boat weight was 8600lbs might want to try 4 blade 24 pitch

F-2 Speedy 06-19-2019 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4692763)

33 Apache I had did 68mph at 5400rpm boat weight was 8600lbs might want to try 4 blade 24 pitch

Thanks, I asked him to down load a gps speedo app on his phone and give me some numbers next time he's out............I'm thinking his boat is around 10K

Griff 06-20-2019 01:05 AM

A 38 Flatdeck will be around 11k dry. It will depend on the hp/torque curve of the engines as to how to prop it.
I would say to try going up 2-3 inches in pitch to start. I doubt he would be able spin the 28 Bravos to 5000rpm.

Full Force 06-20-2019 05:10 AM

Top gun will weigh around 9800-10,000 with light to no fuel, what drives?

That HP with TRS?? your looking at worked 25 Mirage plus or 24 Hydromotives spinning 54-5600 range, or a 24-26 Bravo around 5200 speed should be 74-77 ish depending on actual HP it has and conditions.

If Konrad boat with 600 HP a 26 Bravo1 will spin 5200@ 73 mph or close to it. or a 28 to 5000rpm at 71mph

BDiggity 06-20-2019 08:51 AM

Its been awhile but i seem to remember my 525sc's, trs, 26p bravo @ about 4900rpm, 71 or 72 mph using gps phone app.

F-2 Speedy 06-20-2019 09:03 AM

Thanks for the info guys, I asked him for mph #'s from 4k to 6k in 500rpm increments, it does have gps speedo but he wasn't watching it, it is a trs boat so I don't want to put to much stress on them, boats been sitting for 5 years, I fixed the engine problems a few weeks ago he's just glad to be back on the water.

endeavor1 06-20-2019 10:44 AM

Ken, I’ve got a set of 26 4 blade bravo 1s if you would like to try them out on his boat. I don’t want to sell them but you’re welcome to test with them.

F-2 Speedy 06-20-2019 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by endeavor1 (Post 4692934)
Ken, I’ve got a set of 26 4 blade bravo 1s if you would like to try them out on his boat. I don’t want to sell them but you’re welcome to test with them.

Thanks man, I'll check with Mike..........are they in KC ?

endeavor1 06-20-2019 01:38 PM

Yes. I’m in Lenexa most mornings and can bring them if you want to meet

Full Force 06-21-2019 05:35 AM

With TRS and 575-600 HP personally I would stick with 3 blades if he beats it at all, leave that couple % of slip trust me... I bet a worked 25 mirage will perform great and help keep drives alive, that power level is about all them tiny lower gears will take and stay together, 4 blades or more then 600 HP create time bombs.

flashgordon 06-21-2019 09:45 AM

my 2 cents
i am spinning 4 blade 26 pitch hydromotive props
considering still getting use to these motors
547 about 700hp???
boat ran 82 at 5600, 4 people full tank of gas, and flat water

flashgordon 06-21-2019 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4693035)
With TRS and 575-600 HP personally I would stick with 3 blades if he beats it at all, leave that couple % of slip trust me... I bet a worked 25 mirage will perform great and help keep drives alive, that power level is about all them tiny lower gears will take and stay together, 4 blades or more then 600 HP create time bombs.


TIME BOMB?????
hmmm really i hope not,,,, well i know my boat has had same set up since early 90's
i know prior owner had one drive rebuilt, never said anything more.
but i have owned boat since 2012 ,,same props,,600 hp now 700 hp
i just try to run easy on drives and boat..keep it in the water...

ICDEDPPL 06-22-2019 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4692886)
A 38 Flatdeck will be around 11k dry.

plus 2,000lbs

Full Force 06-23-2019 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by flashgordon (Post 4693097)
TIME BOMB?????
hmmm really i hope not,,,, well i know my boat has had same set up since early 90's
i know prior owner had one drive rebuilt, never said anything more.
but i have owned boat since 2012 ,,same props,,600 hp now 700 hp
i just try to run easy on drives and boat..keep it in the water...

I guess it's because I use mine like intended, I don't baby it, why have it? I bought a SSM boat after trying to keep TRS alive for years...


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