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kvogt 07-17-2019 07:31 AM

Try a different set of props. See if they have the same rpm problem.

payuppsucker 07-17-2019 10:19 AM

One drive is chain driven, the other is gear driven (to change rotation). The gear drive box is less efficient than the chain drive and will extract more power but I wouldn't think it would 15%. Do you know which side the gear drive box is on?

14 apache 07-17-2019 04:39 PM

You might be able to put synthetic oil in the slow side gear box.

Tmaddox4x4 07-17-2019 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4697181)
One drive is chain driven, the other is gear driven (to change rotation). The gear drive box is less efficient than the chain drive and will extract more power but I wouldn't think it would 15%. Do you know which side the gear drive box is on?

I believe the ZF 280's are gear only. Basically one is in reverse and one in forward. Typical three shaft transmission with an input, a lay, and output shaft. The side that's down on RPM is the one that has more gear contact to rotate same as the motor. I can't imagine it's 15% though.

payuppsucker 07-17-2019 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Tmaddox4x4 (Post 4697289)
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I believe the ZF 280's are gear only. Basically one is in reverse and one in forward. Typical three shaft transmission with an input, a lay, and output shaft. The side that's down on RPM is the one that has more gear contact to rotate same as the motor. I can't imagine it's 15% though.

Agreed, 15% is a lot.
What horsepower are you making?

payuppsucker 07-17-2019 06:46 PM

Hold on, let’s back up a bit......
I am talking about the ASD8 drives, not the transmissions.
So are you saying the counter rotation is accomplished in the transmissions rather than the drives?
I am not well versed on the ASD8 but assumed it was similar to the ASD7 which uses gears to reverse rotation on one drive and a chain/sprocket combo on the other drive.

Tmaddox4x4 07-17-2019 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4697291)

Agreed, 15% is a lot.
What horsepower are you making?

They are the 480HP 950TQ rated motors. I just had the the first 250 hour service done on them. We checked the valve lash and injectors, and a few other things. I'm really leaning towards the props, it makes the most sense. My only experience with surface drives is with RC boats. I do know that a very small change in prop makes a huge difference. Granted, that probably not the best comparison.

Tmaddox4x4 07-17-2019 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4697292)
Hold on, let’s back up a bit......
I am talking about the ASD8 drives, not the transmissions.
So are you saying the counter rotation is accomplished in the transmissions rather than the drives?
I am not well versed on the ASD8 but assumed it was similar to the ASD7 which uses gears to reverse rotation on one drive and a chain/sprocket combo on the other drive.

My Arnesons don't have a gear box. They are connected straight to the trans output. My trans are 1.118:1 ratio, basically direct drive. My motors sit incredibly low and the transmission takes care of the drop. The output flange is also at a 7° down angle.

payuppsucker 07-17-2019 07:16 PM

Ok, well excuse my ignorance and I learned something here.
If you have #6 props I have a spare set if you’d like to try them.
They are considerably smaller than what you are running though.

14 apache 07-17-2019 08:41 PM

Last thing I can come up with is one intercooler is clogged with soot.


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