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Valve train noise 525 efi after top ends
Just got done top ends on one of my 525 efi. Replaced heads with pre assembled dart pro 1 heads. Replaced lifters with crane long travel lifters, measured and installed .250" longer pushrods from liberty, installed and adjusted harland sharp 1.7 s2001 rockers to 1 turn after zero lash. Issue I am having is after running for approx 45min total, the valve train is clicking/rattling pretty bad and it is not normal. Almost sounds like lifter noise but it is def coming from under valve covers. Removed both covers, inspected for loose components or rocker-to-cover contact. Everything looks perfect. Anyone have any input on my issue??
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One turn is little much for Cranes. I know Crane used to say 3/4 turn to get .040 of preload.
I'd run the engine with the valve covers off. You should be able to narrow it down then. Just because the stuff is new does not mean it can't be defective. |
The crane sheet says 1/2 to 1 turn, .040-.060 preload. 7/16-20 rocker studs would mean that 1 turn is .050". I'm going to give scorpion marine endurance rockers a try this weekend. Thanks for the response!
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Are you sure the lifters were on the base circle of the cam when setting the preload, I dont think the rockers are the issue
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Makes me sick to my stomach when I read people having issues with brand new lifters. I relive the troubles we had with the morels 2 years ago. Hope you get it figured out!! |
Any evidence on the push rods that the guides aren’t exactly adjusted? Or one of the set screws didn’t get tightened enough? Just throwing ideas out there. |
Originally Posted by 1MOSES1
(Post 4701431)
Makes me sick to my stomach when I read people having issues with brand new lifters. I relive the troubles we had with the morels 2 years ago. Hope you get it figured out!! |
Originally Posted by ph1971
(Post 4701443)
Any evidence on the push rods that the guides aren’t exactly adjusted? Or one of the set screws didn’t get tightened enough? Just throwing ideas out there. |
zero lash |
Are you sure the rockers aren't hitting valve covers? Have you run it with valve covers removed?
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When you replaced the rockers, did you reuse the OEM polylocks or use the ones that came with the Harland Sharpes? The OEM polylocks are shorter than the ones that usually come with other brands and the valve covers could be hitting them.
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you said one of your engines, twin engines, one is stock and the other one is not ?
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Originally Posted by zz28zz
(Post 4701452)
Are you sure the rockers aren't hitting valve covers? Have you run it with valve covers removed?
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Originally Posted by AllDodge
(Post 4701447)
Some find zero lash different then others. Never done a 525, but zero to me is when there is no up/down movement, but turning the rod can still be done. Others do zero as when rod cannot be turned
Easiest way to do it is with the intake manifold off. Then you can actually see when the lifter compresses. |
Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
(Post 4701461)
you said one of your engines, twin engines, one is stock and the other one is not ?
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Originally Posted by HyFive578
(Post 4701458)
When you replaced the rockers, did you reuse the OEM polylocks or use the ones that came with the Harland Sharpes? The OEM polylocks are shorter than the ones that usually come with other brands and the valve covers could be hitting them.
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just curious why you didnt stay with the OE lifters and push rods unless the Dart heads didnt allow for it
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I wanted to freshen everything from the cam up. Hours since last rebuild are unknown. The pushrods had to be lengthened .250" for the dart heads.
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Originally Posted by 382fastechh
(Post 4701445)
what issue did you have with morels??
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