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chris302 02-21-2020 10:09 AM

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flashgordon 02-21-2020 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by chris302 (Post 4726316)
i will look into some. You are talki g about the plugs next to the front cam bearing?
Also noticed on my old 454 had a small hole drilled below the cam bearing same purpose i guess.

yea,,again not sure on gen 5 or 6,,,
but yea like your old 454...those hole are to get a little oil to that interface between timing chain and block.
years ago , i that same issue , cam wore into my block.in my super gas car,,, my same machine got me a thrust washer to put behind timing chain.
now ,,you can get that thrust washer as part of timing chain gear.
also,, i hate to say this,,,but you better see what is in your oil filter. hopefully your filter caught any metal from timing chain.
i had similar issue when i destroyed my valley baffles. i had metal in filter,,,so i rebuilt that motor again.

flashgordon 02-21-2020 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by chris302 (Post 4726318)


yea those plugs...
what are your motors gen 5 or 6??

chris302 02-21-2020 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by flashgordon (Post 4726349)
yea those plugs...
what are your motors gen 5 or 6??

new and my old ones are gen 4.
I ran motors about 2 hrs the changed oil and filters. cut open one of those sunday does have metal in filter. Filters in motor now have maybe 1.5 - 2hrs will pull those this weekend.going to pump rest of oil out of motors and check pan with endoscope also.

flashgordon 02-21-2020 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by chris302 (Post 4726355)
new and my old ones are gen 4.
I ran motors about 2 hrs the changed oil and filters. cut open one of those sunday does have metal in filter. Filters in motor now have maybe 1.5 - 2hrs will pull those this weekend.going to pump rest of oil out of motors and check pan with endoscope also.

sounds like a plan

good luck

chris302 02-22-2020 07:19 PM

Put a scope down down in the motor seen enough it's coming out. Looks like the rod caps been hitting the oil pan baffle. Fuu me.
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chris302 02-22-2020 07:52 PM

Thanks for all the help guys. I really appreciate it!

flashgordon 02-23-2020 07:09 AM

ahhhh,, bummmer chris,,,
but ,,for all the money that goes into building these motors,,,,,,,you got to be safe than sorry.

sutphen 30 02-23-2020 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by chris302 (Post 4726491)
Put a scope down down in the motor seen enough it's coming out. Looks like the rod caps been hitting the oil pan baffle. Fuu me.
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who built these motors,,no way they didn't know the con rod bolts were hitting the windage tray.hate to say it,,you bought a pile of parts.have the rotating assembly's balance can't trust anything in these motors.

chris302 02-23-2020 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4726524)
who built these motors,,no way they didn't know the con rod bolts were hitting the windage tray.hate to say it,,you bought a pile of parts.have the rotating assembly's balance can't trust anything in these motors.

Glen Self Racing in Oklahoma did the rebuild. I agree they did not get anything right on the too end , sure the bottom is no better. Tear em down and start over.


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