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Leaking header, but not a crack
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1. Cut out hole https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0653b8e0cb.jpg 2. Outside of the inner pipe https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4776da16cd.jpg 3. Inside of inner and outer pipe https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4ae9eea963.jpg 4. Inside of inner pipe I bought this set 7 years ago very aware of the risk for leaks. Therefore I have had dual water pickups for safe water supply and have flushed the headers after every outing even though I´m in very brackish water. Last season I got water in cylinder 7 and 8, took the headers off and pressure tested with water and found out that there were leaks, not from the welds but from somewhere inside the pipes from cylinder 1-4. Water then poured down through the collector down into cylinder 8 and 7. I used a camera probe and located the leaks on the outer radius at the highest point of the pipes from cyl 1-4. Pic. 1 shows the hole I cut out. Pic 2 shows the outside of the inner pipe. Pic 3 shows the inside of the inner- and outer pipe, You can clearly see spots of soot on the outer pipe. Pic 3 shows much better how pitted this leaking area is, looks almost corroded. On the left side I have cleaned it with a steel brush. The engine is a bone stock 496HO, the PCM has not been reflashed, nothing but the headers are done to it. I have never had an overheat alarm and there have never been any discoloration on the header so what have caused this? Could it be the fuel, we have 5% Ethanol in the fuel here? Or could it be a lean condition in cylinders 1-4 due to bad injectors? If that was the case wouldn´t it be damage to the exhaust valves then? All pistons, exhaust valves looks fine as does the exhaust pipes from cyl 5-8. The reason for this post is to find out what has happened, if the headers is made from the right alloy it must be engine related or? I am grateful for some help and input from the engine gurus here and/or others with knowledge/experience of this issue. You don´t have to point out that this kind of a header will leak sooner or later, I have read that in lots of header threads. Thanks! |
You already have your answer. Headers wear out, simple as that.
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On a stock 496 headers aren't worth the money or aggravation IMO.
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Buy some SS marine or stock mercury exhaust and be down with it...
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You got 7 years out of them,that seems like a good run for headers.Get some Stainless Marine exhaust and not have worry about exhaust leaks anymore.
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So why are stainless marine risers so impervious to failure? They are jacketed stainless tubing also, correct? I think you may have developed an obstruction in the water tree that feeds that side. It looks like extreme heat to my eye. Aluminum manifolds would have melted right through. I know of a Thunder and Lightning header that had melt down from such an occurrence.
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Originally Posted by ph1971
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So why are stainless marine risers so impervious to failure? They are jacketed stainless tubing also, correct? I think you may have developed an obstruction in the water tree that feeds that side. It looks like extreme heat to my eye. Aluminum manifolds would have melted right through. I know of a Thunder and Lightning header that had melt down from such an occurrence.
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Originally Posted by ph1971
(Post 4735456)
So why are stainless marine risers so impervious to failure? They are jacketed stainless tubing also, correct? I think you may have developed an obstruction in the water tree that feeds that side. It looks like extreme heat to my eye. Aluminum manifolds would have melted right through. I know of a Thunder and Lightning header that had melt down from such an occurrence.
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Originally Posted by ph1971
(Post 4735456)
So why are stainless marine risers so impervious to failure? They are jacketed stainless tubing also, correct? I think you may have developed an obstruction in the water tree that feeds that side. It looks like extreme heat to my eye. Aluminum manifolds would have melted right through. I know of a Thunder and Lightning header that had melt down from such an occurrence.
the general concensus is that the method of manufacturing greatly increases the life and reduces risk of failure. |
Originally Posted by hogie roll
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They are cast as well. Website says stainless Marine is aluminum? Is that true?
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