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thunderboatr 04-29-2020 12:16 PM

Cigarette 28 Cracked Blocks
 
I am looking at purchasing a cigarette 28 that my uncle sold 2 years ago back from the current owner, allegedly the boat was never put in the water while the current owner had it and from what I understand both blocks are now cracked from not winterizing the boat properly... this is a VERY clean boat and has TRS drives on it that were recently serviced by Riggs marine up here in Oshkosh. I will try to get some pictures uploaded but for now I'm trying to get an idea as to what the boat is worth with the cracked engine blocks? I know the boat last sold for 27000.00. any input would be great.

jeff32 04-29-2020 12:56 PM

A 28 cig means old boat!
could mean worth the hull trailer and drives value so...????
5k? 7 k? Depends on general condition...10k would be a lot imo


pictures?

Griff 04-29-2020 10:59 PM

No way to put a good value on any boat that old without seeing it up close. Value depends on 90% on condition. If it was worth 27k with good running engines, then I'd say prob 15k max.

flashgordon 04-30-2020 12:13 PM

as griff said,,,all depends on condition of boat.
next,,the cracked blocks,
are you going to pull motors , repair or replace blocks or motors???
or going to pay a shop to do all this work???

thunderboatr 05-03-2020 11:51 PM

I ended up buying it. I know this boat has been talked about on here already, it actually belonged to my uncle up until 2 years ago when it was sold to a guy in new jersey who literally bought it and parked it in the driveway where it sat for 2 years until Saturday when I arrived in NJ after a 900 mile drive from Wisconsin to bring it back home. I have confirmed that there is a problem with both engines due to water making its way into the bottom ends of the engines, I am unsure right now as to whether the heads or blocks are cracked or if the head gaskets just let go, Im assuming the worst. I will be working on getting one of the engines out this week, it being the one that the previous owner ran when he discovered the issue. He did not try running the other so when I got it the oil was clean and fine. today I ran the engine I was unsure about and discovered this engine has a leak somewhere as well.. I anticipated this. (can't say I wouldn't have been tickled pink if it would have been okay though!) now I have some work to do!

thunderboatr 05-03-2020 11:58 PM

this forum will not allow me to upload photos until I have at least 10 posts apparently. Im new... :bsflag:

The boat is the "SKAMMER" though. you can find pictures of it in the "1986 Cigarette 28 SS last one?" thread in here... it was posted by northernoffshore

speicher lane 05-04-2020 05:37 AM

Are the frost plugs pushed out of the blocks? (If the plugs are pushed and there is water in the pan you definitely have to inspect the blocks)

BTW, Re:10 posts... a lot of people just post a succession of short posts to hit the number to get the pics up!

Good Luck with your project, always good to hear about a Cig coming back into the family/ family and getting some loving....

thunderboatr 05-04-2020 10:36 AM

Goot advice!

thunderboatr 05-04-2020 10:37 AM

the plugs are not pushed out.

thunderboatr 05-04-2020 10:38 AM

however I did speak with my engine builder.

thunderboatr 05-04-2020 10:38 AM

he informed me that the late model blocks are poorly made.

thunderboatr 05-04-2020 10:39 AM

according to him the castings are from Mexico.

thunderboatr 05-04-2020 10:39 AM

very thin walls in the valley

thunderboatr 05-04-2020 10:41 AM

ultimately causing the block to crack before the plug will even push out!

here's #10 pics coming

thunderboatr 05-04-2020 10:42 AM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...414bde9f74.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8b7856eead.png
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3e49be1b3c.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...352335e458.jpg

thunderboatr 05-04-2020 10:42 AM

tell me what you think!

F-2 Speedy 05-04-2020 10:48 AM

I saw it on FB looks pretty good, so you bought it with bad engines ?

Alwhite00 05-04-2020 11:08 AM

Nice looking boat. Are them small blocks?

thunderboatr 05-04-2020 11:26 AM

I did yes, I knew they where cracked.

thunderboatr 05-04-2020 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Alwhite00 (Post 4737154)
Nice looking boat. Are them small blocks?

thank you! they are smallbocks yes.

ThisIsLivin 05-04-2020 01:04 PM

That is one beautiful boat. Most likely you will have to do a complete tear down and replace the blocks and possibly the heads and exhaust. If it were me I'd build up a nice set of Dart 427 short blocks and go from there. Easy to make a good 500+hp that will live forever.

speicher lane 05-04-2020 03:31 PM

Very pretty Cig.....sucks that the engines are ruined but the plus is you can pick your power and start fresh with trouble free engines.


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