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BOSS342 08-02-2020 07:40 AM

Motors
 
I just bought a 2000 Baja 342. It’s has two 502 magnums MPI. The starboard engine was rebuilt 19 hours ago. The port engine has 760 hours and it’s original. I backed the boat in the water last week and the starboard started while the port did not. I had to replace the starter/fuel pump relay switch (very easy), changed the oil in the port engine and changed the lower units gear oil. Took it back to the launch and the port engine would start but now the starboard would not start. It will make a half turn and then seems to lock up. This happens each time you turn the key. I thought maybe it was a dead battery, so I replaced both batteries on that side and it still does the same thing. When I pulled the boat out of the water and pulled the plug it seemed to have gotten a lot of water in it. I assume it coming from the port engine some how while it was running. Any thoughts???

PA.WOODCHUCK 08-02-2020 07:52 AM

Maybe when U backed the boat in.. water came in through exhaust and locked engine? Are the flappers in exhaust good?

BOSS342 08-02-2020 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by PA.WOODCHUCK (Post 4751019)
Maybe when U backed the boat in.. water came in through exhaust and locked engine? Are the flappers in exhaust good?

I don’t see any flappers. Does that mean the engine is ruined?? I’m kinda mechanically inclined. If told to do something I can do it and once I understand how something works I can usually figure things out, but I have called a mobile boat mechanic but he can’t come out for 2 weeks. Anything I can do for the locked motor or is it too difficult or shot now?

speicher lane 08-02-2020 08:10 AM

Did you hold the key on trying to force the starter to roll the engine or just not press the issue? If you held the key on hoping for a roll over you could have bent internals....

I would pull all the plugs, ground the ign. and then roll over the engine.... then put spray some oil into the cylinders if it spins....

BOSS342 08-02-2020 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4751028)
Did you hold the key on trying to force the starter to roll the engine or just not press the issue? If you held the key on hoping for a roll over you could have bent internals....

I would pull all the plugs, ground the ign. and then roll over the engine.... then put spray some oil into the cylinders if it spins....

no I tried to start it about 8 times. I wouldn’t say I laid on the key, but I tried to start it normally

liberator221 08-02-2020 10:27 AM

Are you saying you removed the plug and there was a lot of water in the bilge, or pulled spark plugs and had water in engine?
sounds like you need a compression test to see if you have a short connecting rod now, and then find the root cause.

BOSS342 08-02-2020 11:39 AM

I pulled the plug in the boat. Not the spark plug.

speicher lane 08-02-2020 11:57 AM

How steep was the ramp? Did you submerge the transom before the hull floated off the trailer? I have seen water push up the exhaust once on that scenario.

Pull the spark plugs and see if the engine was hydro locked...very evident if it was.

BOSS342 08-03-2020 02:15 PM

So I pulled the spark plugs. Put oil in the cylinder turned motor over and had a lot water in one of the cylinders. Got water out, changed spark plugs fires up motor and it runs. A lot of “steam” coming from exhaust. While there is none coming from the motor that had no issue. I turned motor off and then restarted and it starts fine. Checked the oil and it seems to now have a bit of water in it. Will an oil change solve the problem? I had a machanic tell me to just run it and let the water evaporate out because it does not seem to be much at all due to the dipstick showing full but not over full. Any thoughts?

GLENAMY 242SS 08-03-2020 02:27 PM

Change the oil for piece of mind. Get a set of "Salsberry Flappers" if you have straight thru-transom exhaust or internal flappers if you have angle cut thru hull exhaust.
Where in TN do you hail from?

BOSS342 08-03-2020 02:35 PM

Dandridge

PA.WOODCHUCK 08-03-2020 05:00 PM

Internal flappers may be burnt out. Use a flashlight and look into pipes.

Griff 08-03-2020 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by BOSS342 (Post 4751226)
So I pulled the spark plugs. Put oil in the cylinder turned motor over and had a lot water in one of the cylinders. Got water out, changed spark plugs fires up motor and it runs. A lot of “steam” coming from exhaust. While there is none coming from the motor that had no issue. I turned motor off and then restarted and it starts fine. Checked the oil and it seems to now have a bit of water in it. Will an oil change solve the problem? I had a machanic tell me to just run it and let the water evaporate out because it does not seem to be much at all due to the dipstick showing full but not over full. Any thoughts?

DO NOT LISTEN TO THAT MECHANIC!!!!!!!

You probably have a bad exhaust manifold or exhaust riser leaking water into the engine or if lucky just a bad gasket between them.
It will destroy the engine if you don't get it fixed

BillK 08-04-2020 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by BOSS342 (Post 4751226)
So I pulled the spark plugs. Put oil in the cylinder turned motor over and had a lot water in one of the cylinders

You need to stop right now and find out where that water came from. Dont run the engine again until you find the problem, period. Every time you try to start it with water in a cylinder you are taking a big chance of bending a connecting rod.

You should probably start by pulling the exhaust manifolds and having them checked.

BOSS342 08-04-2020 07:35 AM

Will do!!

kreed 08-07-2020 06:08 AM

Also you say you started the engine and it ran...did you run it on the hose? If not, you probably burned up the water pump impeller. Anytime you run a boat on land, you have to run water through the sea pump or it will burn up.

BOSS342 08-07-2020 07:45 AM

I had the hose and muffs on it

resurrected 08-07-2020 10:07 AM

How much water was in the pan? Water if not mixed with the oil (whitish) will be a puddle in the sump and will be first to be pumped through the engine.

Smitty275 08-15-2020 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by BOSS342 (Post 4751231)
Dandridge

I'm in Lafollette. About an hour and a half drive. If you need a hand let me know.


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