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scippy 10-30-2020 03:12 PM

"Continuous" ~or~ "Intermittent"
 
I have 2 Solenoids relays for the "up" and "down" function of my engine hatch. Both are mounted individually and away from the hydraulic trim pump that operate the hatch.
While covering the boat I accidently flipped the switch on the dash in the "down" position , next morning no "up" or "down" function of the engine hatch...I believe the "down" solenoid is
has burnt (not sure why "up" solenoid is not working unless it's in series) anyway, my question is when replacing the solenoid...should they be "continuous" ~or! "intermittent
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d84565789b.jpg
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Rookie 10-30-2020 04:26 PM

I'm pretty sure you want continuous. Intermittent is more for a windshield wiper and blinker relay.
Side note, I installed a remote controlled relay. Can use it anywhere on the boat. I also still have the switch working.

sutphen 30 10-30-2020 04:29 PM

continuous would be a stronger solenoid.but,both will work

ICDEDPPL 10-30-2020 04:43 PM

Continuous is designed for continuous use like an ignition relay so it`s more heavy duty I guess

scippy 10-30-2020 04:45 PM

Is there anyway to check if the old solenoids I'm replacing were were continuous or intermittent?

scippy 10-30-2020 05:18 PM

[QUOTE=Rookie;4763924]I'm pretty sure you want continuous. Intermittent is more for a windshield wiper and blinker relay.

Just for arguments sake, wouldn't a continuous solenoid work in excess of what it's purpose is for raising an engine hatch? applying the switch (to raise the hatch) is like a 10 sec. job at most.
I guess it's what the word "intermittent" means .....if it's like a windshield wiper application than yes continuous......but a hatch doesn't need power for more than a little time....confused!

IGetWet 10-30-2020 05:43 PM

If your switch for the hatch isn’t a momentary switch then the solenoid also shouldn’t be momentary or intermittent.

Are you sure it’s the solenoid that failed? Usually they’d look like they burned up from the outside. If the hatch rams kept trying to close after the hatch was closed, did it blow a fuse or maybe the rams themselves failed?

I would think that switch for the hatch should be momentary so this wouldn’t happen.

GLENAMY 242SS 10-30-2020 06:05 PM

My money is on a fuse or more likely a circuit breaker before the solenoids. A test light would smoke out the problem in moments. Good luck Skippy

Rookie 10-30-2020 07:16 PM

Is there power into and out of this breaker when switch is pressed? I'm thinking the switch is bad or pump motor.

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1BIGJIM 10-30-2020 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4763924)
I'm pretty sure you want continuous. Intermittent is more for a windshield wiper and blinker relay.
Side note, I installed a remote controlled relay. Can use it anywhere on the boat. I also still have the switch working.
https://www.amazon.com/LIEBMAYA-Wire...4092897&sr=8-1

can you explain how that works. Just curious 😎

Rookie 10-30-2020 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by 1BIGJIM (Post 4763954)
can you explain how that works. Just curious 😎

It's just a wireless box that hooks up to your existing reversing solenoid or relays. (Unless you just run a DPDT switch) Think of the hatch just like a winch. Instead of in/out it's just up/down.
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...remote+install

scippy 10-31-2020 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4763937)
If your switch for the hatch isn’t a momentary switch then the solenoid also shouldn’t be momentary or intermittent.

Are you sure it’s the solenoid that failed? Usually they’d look like they burned up from the outside. If the hatch rams kept trying to close after the hatch was closed, did it blow a fuse or maybe the rams themselves failed?

I would think that switch for the hatch should be momentary so this wouldn’t happen.

The engine hatch switch on the dash is a "click on" - "click off" type rocker switch .......so most likely the solenoid would or should be "continuous". Test light shows 12V power to one side of solenoid & nothing going to the trim pump.

IGetWet 10-31-2020 07:04 AM

Ok, from you’re first post it read like you hit the switch in the down position and it stayed there. But the switch being momentary makes more sense. Yes, I agree the solenoid is a continuous duty solenoid.

scippy 10-31-2020 06:04 PM

OK just to continue, ..and thanks to all for your advice .....it was a blown fuse and also damaged the solenoids....I think the trim pump suffered damage also ...oil pushed out of the hydraulic ram that lifts the engine hatch.
I guess the the seals blew before the fuse did .....so I think the solenoids were a "continuous" type to begin with and as well as the rocker switch on the dash.....I ordered new "momentary" rocker switches .for the dash in conjunction with new "intermittent" solenoids..........I will try to rebuild the hydraulic ram with new seals!.......Does a hydraulic trim pump need to be bleed when filling it with new oil?...just about everything is shot!

IGetWet 10-31-2020 07:10 PM

I think you still want continuous duty solenoids. The solenoid stays pulled in, continuously, as long as your holding the switch which is 10-15 seconds or so. Just a thought, I could be wrong.

scippy 10-31-2020 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4764043)
I think you still want continuous duty solenoids. The solenoid stays pulled in, continuously, as long as your holding the switch which is 10-15 seconds or so. Just a thought, I could be wrong.

I found Cole-Hersee solenoids which were original to the boat when it was rigged on line & very inexpensive ...Marine type for $19 either "intermittent" ~ or ~ "Continuous"


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