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smokediver 12-06-2020 06:21 AM

Mefi 3 lifespan
 
I am in the process of doing a rebuild and am wondering the longevity of the mefi 3 ecm. Mine is a 2000 on a 502 mag mpi. The Holley HP looks like a slick set up but I am concerned about hatch clearance and would like to keep a stock appearance. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

liquidlounge 12-06-2020 10:09 AM

Just my opinion here, but if staying stock, the old MEFI is wonderfully simple and reliable for marine use. The Holley, while a great system, will do very well to have the reliability record of the MEFI. For how many zillions of these that are in service, it is pretty rare to find one that has shot craps for no reason.

articfriends 12-06-2020 10:42 AM

Ive had my hands on at least 100 mefis in past 15 years, saw a guys boat that killed 2 mefi-1s on same motor (30 hrs apart), I blame something in his wiring. Saw 1 mefi4 that would not turn on his fuel pump relay no matter what we did so we triggered relay on a different way, sold 1 mefi3 with a 500 efi tune that I loaded on it to a guy from Florida that thought he had a bad one (never heard back IF that fixed his issues) that's IT. A EX-member from here (BUP) has posted pictures of stacks of bad "mefis" he's repairing, looks like a EPIDEMIC looking at his post but I personally haven't found that to be the case. Now, a mefi3 is potted, Ive seen them where they were under water and still worked afterwards, I don't think a Holley is necessarily as sealed /rated for marine use and I think over time theirs MORE of a chance for one to fail then a MEFI. I HAVE also seen harness problems on a few mefi boats too BUT unless it was under water in Saltwater can easily be traced out and repaired, Smitty

smokediver 12-06-2020 04:01 PM

Thanks for the replies. That makes decisions a lot easier !

Rookie 12-06-2020 04:41 PM

My opinion if you need to tune it and want to learn EFI go Holley. (The HP and Dominator are aluminum cased and fully potted, Terminator plastic and not potted) If you don't need to pay for someone to tune it keep the MEFI.

Trash 12-06-2020 11:07 PM

I've run my original MEFI 1 for 25 years and literally hundreds of tunes loaded and downloaded. Zero issues, not one. I'm not sure how much more bullet proof it can get.

Padraig 12-07-2020 08:39 AM

Anyone hear of a mefiI that will not send a signal to the IAC? IAC is good and wiring checks out.

Padraig

sutphen 30 12-07-2020 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Padraig (Post 4768304)
Anyone hear of a may I that will not send a signal to the IAC? IAC is good and wiring checks out.

Padraig

driver in the ecu is blown,,ie a transistor.

tgorbett 12-07-2020 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by Padraig (Post 4768304)
Anyone hear of a mefiI that will not send a signal to the IAC? IAC is good and wiring checks out.

Padraig

I have a bad MEFI 3 with that same exact issue. Anyone know whether this can be repaired?

Diamond Dave 12-08-2020 12:55 AM

I asked BUP since I know for a fact he repairs a lot of ECM’s. He said if the IAC drivers were available he would be able to repair the MEFI 3’s. MEFI 4’s use a different IAC driver than MEFI 3’s. But the same goes for the MEFI 4’s if you can find new IAC drivers for that ECM he could repair them also. For 2020 the MEFI IAC drivers he could not find any new and he has no more in stock either per his words. Anyhow I thought I would ask to see what he had to say.

Padraig 12-08-2020 09:45 AM

Thanks, My local guy diagnosed it and then I recently sent the MEFI to Eddie Young at Performance Marine. Eddie rebuilt my engine and tuned it so we will see what he says. If it has to be replaced that could be tough as Eddie said that my particular model is difficult to come by.

Padraig

t_Bone 05-16-2023 07:07 PM

A few seasons ago I repowered my 2000 Ski Nautique with a 5.7 MPI from Michigan Motorz the motor seems to be doing well itself, I wish I could say the same for the ECM, I am about to be on my third one. There was no problems with the ECM with the prior motor, the motor was a like for like swap, none of the electronics were replaced. I know this could be purely coincidental with the motor swap, but shortly after that, is when this started happening. I have looked thought most of the wiring around and near the ECM, checked all grounds etc, everything seems to be in normal condition, aside from ripping out the entire wiring harness I am out of places to look. No abnormal events happening before ECMs are quitting, runs great for about 3/4 of a season, then all of a sudden I lose the ECM call for the fuel pump, and then usually no spark after that.

First two ECMs were purchased from and programmed by obd2allinone dot com
Only place I could find that still deals with these old ECMs

I would like to find the underlying problem, but not sure where to start.

If all else fails are there any replacements for the MEFI-3 that are reasonably plug and play with a tune and conversion harness?

Hoping someone with more experience with these can point me in the right direction.

Thanks


SB 05-16-2023 08:56 PM

If not wiring issues maybe alternator issues.

articfriends 05-17-2023 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by t_Bone (Post 4867881)
A few seasons ago I repowered my 2000 Ski Nautique with a 5.7 MPI from Michigan Motorz the motor seems to be doing well itself, I wish I could say the same for the ECM, I am about to be on my third one. There was no problems with the ECM with the prior motor, the motor was a like for like swap, none of the electronics were replaced. I know this could be purely coincidental with the motor swap, but shortly after that, is when this started happening. I have looked thought most of the wiring around and near the ECM, checked all grounds etc, everything seems to be in normal condition, aside from ripping out the entire wiring harness I am out of places to look. No abnormal events happening before ECMs are quitting, runs great for about 3/4 of a season, then all of a sudden I lose the ECM call for the fuel pump, and then usually no spark after that.

First two ECMs were purchased from and programmed by obd2allinone dot com
Only place I could find that still deals with these old ECMs

I would like to find the underlying problem, but not sure where to start.

If all else fails are there any replacements for the MEFI-3 that are reasonably plug and play with a tune and conversion harness?

Hoping someone with more experience with these can point me in the right direction.

Thanks

I havent used one yet but there is supposed to be a AEM jumper harness and ECM that will plug into a mefi, at least a mefi4 which means if needed your mefi harness could be repinned to a 4 to plug in the adapter and work IF they dont make a 3 adapter. BUT as far as a proper "tune " pre-populated for you 5.7 ski boat, no, YOU or your tuner would have to decided WHAT safe timing (vs octane), fuel afr targets etc you wanted and adjust ae, idle, midrange, wot, etc until it ran at least as good as stock, Smitty


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