496 HO high idle - TechMate scanned
 

I bought a 2008 Daytona with a Merc 496 Whipple about 3 months ago. It has run perfectly. Last month it started idling high, 900-1100. No, it's not the linkage. The throttle plate is closed. I bought a Rinda TechMate. The idle says about 850. There are no faults shown on the scanner. Under the freeze frame I found the following codes:

21 ECT
50 EST shorted
77 Camshaft sensor
121 & 122 TPS low / high
152 IAC output

When I raised the IAC with the scanner it did not raise the engine idle. I already changed the IAC with no change. Fuel pressure was about 43 at idle. IDK if this matters, but under Shift Position it says "In Gear". TPS voltage says .27.

Any ideas?

No expert but

What is the motor serial number?
What is the IAC counts?
What is the MAP reading?

Being a 2008 I'm guessing the fuel pressure should be 39 at idle and 43 at WOT. Check the vacuum line going to the regulator to see if its working, remove line and see if pressure increases

Thanks Dodge. The standard serial label is missing. I think the engine is a 2007. The scanner does not give me an IAC count. I raised the IAC to 100% and lowered below zero on the scanner and it did very little to the idle, it still hovered around 830-840. The MAP is about 15. I think I read 44 psi at idle is about right and mine reads 43.5.

Which scanner do you have, the IAC count is on the Techmate and others made by Rinda (Diacom)
My 39 psi came from a former expert (MUC)

Trying to determine if there is a vacuum leak with the MAP reading, or the MAP volts may be off

Place a vacuum gauge on the line to the intake and see what your getting

Thanks Dodge. I have a Rinda TechMate Pro. Here's more info from the scanner:

Manifold pressure: 10.1
Barometric pressure: 14.7
Manifold temp: 53
IAC duty cycle: 10.7
TPS #1 position: .02
Block pressure: 2.4

I think you have a vacuum leak. The IAC is almost closed, the TPS is closed but the manifold pressure is dead on target. So the IAC is doing everything it can but is not able to reduce it further. Just my guess

does it still say "in gear" while in neutral?if so,,start looking at the switch on the shifter backet on the exhaust manifold,if its not ther then its on the throttles/shifter at the helm.

you have a few codes there,have you looked at the connectors on the ecu?

Didn't notice these codes with my first comment, and was edited about an hour after posting
21 ECT
50 EST shorted
77 Camshaft sensor
121 & 122 TPS low / high
152 IAC output

Most all these go to a wiring problem or short. There should also be an alarm

Thanks guys! The codes were from the freeze frame, there are no current codes. I'm not sure when those codes happened. I did previously find the harness at the TPS had a short so I replaced it. No change. TPS volts are low, Whipple manual says it must be about .65v. I have .25. I need to adjust that today. Whipple manual also says vacuum leak for a high idle issue. I haven't found any obvious vac leak. As far as gear position "in gear", IDK if that's a normal reading for a PCM 555. I pulled the shift mechanism and all I found was the neutral safety switch. You may be right, the IAC is trying but unable to lower the idle. Even bringing the IAC below 0 with the scanner made basically no difference in the idle speed. I guess back to more checking today. BTW, it seemed there was more IAC air noise at idle before this issue.

The "in gear" switch is on the shift plate if it has one.


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I don't see any wiring or harness for a gear position sensor. I started engine and scanned again today. I raised TPS voltage to .65 per Whipple. No change, still idles warm about 980. If I bring the TPS voltage down to .10 it lowers the idle, a little from 980. I also increased the IAC % with the scan tool, I could hear more air at the IAC but no real change in idle speed. I held the Whipple throttle plates closed and that did not lower the idle either. Injector test was fine. I took the throttle linkage off. If I start the engine, rev it by hand, the idle goes up and rests at 1280 and will not go back down. Putting pressure on the linkage does nothing and the Whipple idle screw is not keeping the idle high. I took the IAC filter off and plugged the intake while it was idling. It lowered the idle some, but as low as 750. It did seem like it was running a little rough and on the edge of stalling. When I plugged the IAC intake, the scanner read IAC duty 99%, when released, IAC settled down to 10. I have looked over the vac lines and the Whipple again, I don't see or hear anything unusual.

Plugged the IAC and it still runs and throttle plate is closed. IMO you have a vacuum leak.

Use WD40 and start spraying or propane (unlit) and move it around to see if anything changes the idle