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Head swap Gen VI 454
I have small peanut port heads on my cruiser. Sundancer 290. The heads are 10114156 and 118cc open chamber. I'm getting ready to put my block together and came across some 279 Vortec heads. 99cc closed chamber. I'm trying to decide if the swap is worthwhile or not. $200 for the new used heads that I'll go through myself. The extra compression won't be an issue for the stock cam grind right? I'd like to leave the long block stock. I was able to reuse the crank, rods, pistons and cam.
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Might want to upgrade intake as well.
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Originally Posted by Pismo10
(Post 4771899)
Might want to upgrade intake as well.
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The Vortec flows a LITTLE more than the peanut. The main benefit us the 99cc heart-shaped combustion chamber. You will see a full number bump in compression. Along with that bump, you should add some cam to it and make sure your springs are matched. You can probably find a stock 454/502 MAG MPI roller cam from somebody here pretty cheap (your Gen 6 block should have a roller in it already. But it will be on the small side). The added compression will love a little more duration. Don't go nuts with the cam - your Gen6 flat top pistons won't accommodate more than 520 lift without deeper notches depending on duration.
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Originally Posted by mcollinstn
(Post 4772597)
The Vortec flows a LITTLE more than the peanut. The main benefit us the 99cc heart-shaped combustion chamber. You will see a full number bump in compression. Along with that bump, you should add some cam to it and make sure your springs are matched. You can probably find a stock 454/502 MAG MPI roller cam from somebody here pretty cheap (your Gen 6 block should have a roller in it already. But it will be on the small side). The added compression will love a little more duration. Don't go nuts with the cam - your Gen6 flat top pistons won't accommodate more than 520 lift without deeper notches depending on duration.
I've heard the same thing that you said about lift, but I have 279 heads on my 454ci +.030" in my 69 Camaro. I'm running a Lunati cam with 241/249 @ .050" 625/625 and 110 lsa. 2.19/1.72 valves. Stock pistons, not fly cut and heads shaved .020". I built it myself. My stock boat cam is completely anemic. I'd love to find a better cam for short money, but I want to keep it cruiser/heavy load not high performance or race boat grind. |
How about used 454mpi / 502 mpi cams ?
Thousands have probably been taken out. The 454’s made 385hp and mild enough to use stock exhaust manifolds, and go thousand hrs or such with no valve train issues. Mercruiser 454 502 Mag Roller Merc# 431-850478 / GM#12551622 .004 300*/ 300* .006 288*/288* .050” 224*/224* .200” 125*/125* Lift .483”/. 483” ICL 109* LSA 115.5* |
Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4772608)
How about used 454mpi / 502 mpi cams ?
Thousands have probably been taken out. The 454’s made 385hp and mild enough to use stock exhaust manifolds, and go thousand hrs or such with no valve train issues. Mercruiser 454 502 Mag Roller Merc# 431-850478 / GM#12551622 .004 300*/ 300* .006 288*/288* .050” 224*/224* .200” 125*/125* Lift .483”/. 483” ICL 109* LSA 115.5* Merc# 431-850453T / GM#12552296 .004” 280º/299º .006” 266º/284º .050” 204º/209º .200” 113º/114º Lift .480”/. 483” ICL 115.5º ECL 120.5º LSA 118º |
Originally Posted by HawkX66
(Post 4772632)
I actually had that cam in my notes to think about. It seems like it would be a good bump up from what I pulled out.
Merc# 431-850453T / GM#12552296 .004” 280º/299º .006” 266º/284º .050” 204º/209º .200” 113º/114º Lift .480”/. 483” ICL 115.5º ECL 120.5º LSA 118º |
Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4772638)
Lol. You must have found that cam info from me back in time. Glad it helps. :thunbs
Now the trick will be to find the cam. Did a quick search and all I found was the triple priced new Mercruiser listings. |
Do a ‘wanted ‘ thread. There is a section in the forum for it.
502mpi one of the nost modded Merc motor ever. So decent chance there are cams around. |
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