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Bravo-merc 525 water pressure issue
400ss I have bravo 3s. One lower has lower water pick up the other does not. The one with out lower water pick up reads between 5-6psi at idle. The one with lower water pick up is 10-11. New transom assembly’s 4 years ago and haven’t seen salt water ever. Never had this issue till this year when I just dropped it in. Back flushed. Retighten all hose clamps related to sea water system. Pull inlet hose off pump from (goes from transom to pump) to check water flow. One with low water pick up def flows a lot more then one with out lower water pick. Both engines running at idle the one with low water pick the collectors are ice cold. The one with out low water pick up the collectors get warm. To me seems like a issue between drive/transom/and pump. I did have the drive serviced over the winter. Also brand new water pump and fuel pump assm. Is it possible a seal between the lower or upper and transom assm is dislocated or am I shooting a pipe dream. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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So are you saying they both use to be 10-11 lbs @ idle ?
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Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
(Post 4789729)
So are you saying they both use to be 10-11 lbs @ idle ?
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new water pump ? circulation pump or sea pump
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Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
(Post 4789733)
new water pump ? circulation pump or sea pump
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10-11psi of water pressure at idle is a ton. Mine at idle is about 2 psi. More important is what is the water psi while running?
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I agree your water pressure at idle is very high. By backflushing you did the power steering cooler, oil cooler, the heat exchanger and the fuel cooler all individually? The fuel cooler is directly aft of the impeller housing, many people don't realize it's down there and address the other coolers.
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Originally Posted by VoodooRob
(Post 4789855)
I agree your water pressure at idle is very high. By backflushing you did the power steering cooler, oil cooler, the heat exchanger and the fuel cooler all individually? The fuel cooler is directly aft of the impeller housing, many people don't realize it's down there and address the other coolers.
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Sometimes you can back, flush tighten all you want. No change. I has similar issue few years back. WP at higher RPM's wasn't bad just a little off, and volume was a bit less.
Turned out to be lizard skeleton pieces stuck in the oil cooler holes. I had a SST flat little rod pushing it through all the holes everywhere, problem went away and I found a few little bone looking things. I used an old windshield wiper blades metal fillings, Nice and strong, but flexible and rounded corner. Now I always have one in the boat. :) |
Can’t get videos to upload to show the difference of water flow from inlet hose off transom assm
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Originally Posted by Rheeder218
(Post 4789884)
the water pressure has been like this since day one of owning the boat (5years). I back flushed every cooler and hose and tightened all hose clamps. With the inlet hose off the water pump. (Hose from transom assm to water pump). The one side is less water flow in with boat just sitting in the water. At cruise that engine is 3-4 psi less. At full throttle I have 47psi on the port and 29psi on the starboard. The starboard one is the one I’m having an issue with.
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I get 3-4 psi at idle on my 525. Service manual says max pressure at speed is 43 but I regularly see higher than that and so do many others so 47 is fine. The 29 psi I'd be concerned about, as you are!
Edit: F-2 Speedy, I respect your knowledge but lots of us run that high of pressure on a 525. |
Bravoitis on the stbd side ?
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Originally Posted by Rheeder218
(Post 4789924)
Can’t get videos to upload to show the difference of water flow from inlet hose off transom assm
My vote is you have a partial obstruction somewhere.
Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
(Post 4789925)
thats crazy high........even the 29 seems high to me
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Well I stand corrected, cuz I don't run antifreeze motor's......:lolhit:
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Originally Posted by Griff
(Post 4789750)
10-11psi of water pressure at idle is a ton. Mine at idle is about 2 psi. More important is what is the water psi while running?
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Originally Posted by madbouyz
(Post 4789930)
Bravoitis on the stbd side ?
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1st thing always is to put something thru each water opening in the oil cooler.....as previously told. Doesn’t take much for a few or. 10 or 20 tubes to get something in them.
Many times back-flushing does squat. Soeaking of which always amazes me how many big chunks of impeller I find in entrance of oil cooler in a boat with an impeller that’s in good shape. Person changing the blown apart impeller dumb or lazy or couldn’t give **** ? Doesn't’ wonder ‘Hey, wonder where the pieces went ?’ |
Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4790061)
1st thing always is to put something thru each water opening in the oil cooler.....as previously told. Doesn’t take much for a few or. 10 or 20 tubes to get something in them.
Many times back-flushing does squat. Soeaking of which always amazes me how many big chunks of impeller I find in entrance of oil cooler in a boat with an impeller that’s in good shape. Person changing the blown apart impeller dumb or lazy or couldn’t give **** ? Doesn't’ wonder ‘Hey, wonder where the pieces went ?’ |
Okay, well...,
Maybe recheck the drive to transom water transfer oring and if okay check lower drive to upper water transfer oring. Maybe f’d up or ??? during service/installation. |
47 is approaching the upper limits, the 29 is not high on closed cooled 525/600/700
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Remember on 525/600/700 its about water flow not water psi to cool the headers, etc. If your headers are getting hot thats definitely not a good scenario for header longevity, your water flow is compromised. Start from the beginning trace the lines taking each line and each cooler apart. Make a tool that your comfortable with to work thru every single cooler opening most importantly in the opposite direction of flow. Back flush each in opposite direction of flow. Take your time you will get it. Finally while at it, make sure your impeller and impeller housing are brand new and not defective for a successful season. Debris in one of the coolers could have dried out and hardened over lay up period causing the blockage.
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Originally Posted by VoodooRob
(Post 4790345)
Remember on 525/600/700 its about water flow not water psi to cool the headers, etc. If your headers are getting hot thats definitely not a good scenario for header longevity, your water flow is compromised. Start from the beginning trace the lines taking each line and each cooler apart. Make a tool that your comfortable with to work thru every single cooler opening most importantly in the opposite direction of flow. Back flush each in opposite direction of flow. Take your time you will get it. Finally while at it, make sure your impeller and impeller housing are brand new and not defective for a successful season. Debris in one of the coolers could have dried out and hardened over lay up period causing the blockage.
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