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TomZ 07-23-2021 02:46 PM

Demon 850 Baseline Jetting
 
Guys, I'll have my 509s in the boat soon and will be ready to test. I have not dyno'd the engines, but one has already been test fired and the other will be done this weekend. We couldn't get dyno time worked out and I'd rather get the boat back together than wait. The starboard test fire was good, strong oil pressure, not leaks, etc.

Engines are 509s with as-cast CNC chamber AFR 325s, 112cc chambers, .646/.646 235/241 113 hydraulic roller (Rookie's old cam), Merlin 4150 intakes, HVH spacer, and Mighty Demon 850s (down-leg boosters not annular).

I've baselined the carbs per Demon's instructions. Based on what I've read regarding the Mighty Demon 850 I went ahead and increased jets to 88 primary and 96 secondary with a 4.5 PV on the primary side (originals are 80/88 and 6.5 PV).

Good start? I will be tuning with a A/F meter in the boat but curious with regard to how close (or far) I may be.


GLENAMY 242SS 07-23-2021 02:57 PM

Why the 4.5 Power Valve? Me think you going the wrong direction on that.
Tom, what afr system did you go with?

SB 07-23-2021 03:15 PM

Oooh, long time ago but I believe my 502 w/Canfield heads was very close to out of the box jetting with 850 DP Sea Demon. I had tuned it on the dyno w/wet exhaust. I'll see if I can find my notes. May take me a bit. ie hrs or days.

TomZ 07-23-2021 03:17 PM

Ordering the Innovate dual gauge that you mentioned the other day.

I had the 4.5 pv that TomR sent with the carbs so I used them. What are your thoughts? Bring them in earlier?

GLENAMY 242SS 07-23-2021 03:29 PM

Under load I think you are going to lean out at the top of the primaries. I would start with the 6.5 or even higher. Don't want a lean condition under load.
Did you get two of those gauge kits? Don't forget to use 90* spacers/heat shields, every try without them cost another $80-$160 for new sensors.
I got mine on ebay for about $20 a se\t. I'll try to find the link.

GLENAMY 242SS 07-23-2021 03:56 PM

I believe these are the ones, it does not say stainless but I think they are, call them to verify.

2x Oxygen O2 Sensor Spacer Extender Adapter M18x1.5 90 Degree Bung Pipe CEL Fix | eBay

TomZ 07-23-2021 04:04 PM

I don’t have the room to use those so they’ll be direct into the tailpipes right after the water bridges. My tailpipes are TRS to I’m really far from the water outlet as it goes into the tips.

TomZ 07-23-2021 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4798736)
Oooh, long time ago but I believe my 502 w/Canfield heads was very close to out of the box jetting with 850 DP Sea Demon. I had tuned it on the dyno w/wet exhaust. I'll see if I can find my notes. May take me a bit. ie hrs or days.

Thanks!

I read the Might Demon liked a lot more jet across the board. I’ve got enough jets to play with everything. Maybe I’ll just put it back together all stock and see what we get?

SB 07-23-2021 04:27 PM

Possibly, i dunno. Most 850 everything are in the 80’s for hetting

F-2 Speedy 07-23-2021 04:40 PM

How can those 90* things can be accurate when they aren't directly in the exhaust flow ? seems they would be getting stagnant uncirculated fumes


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