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stinkbomb 04-07-2022 04:12 PM

Offset lifter bores in roller blocks?
 
Are the lifter bores in a Gen 6 block offset like flat tappet blocks? Yes I'm wanting to put a flat tappet cam in there.

the deep 04-07-2022 04:20 PM

My Gen 6.

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stinkbomb 04-07-2022 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 4828104)
My Gen 6.

Looks offset to me but is it?

Unlimited jd 04-07-2022 05:23 PM

Lifter bores are in the same place. I have a gen 6 block here someone put a flat tappet in.

SB 04-07-2022 08:34 PM

X 100.
No such thing as offset bores. You can put flat tappet cam and lifters in there if you want. But do you really want, really really want ?

stinkbomb 04-08-2022 05:30 AM

Interesting, so a roller cam has the lobes moved on center of the lifter bores? I'll have to measure that if I get my hands on a flat tappet cam one day.

Unlimited jd 04-08-2022 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4828147)
X 100.
No such thing as offset bores. You can put flat tappet cam and lifters in there if you want. But do you really want, really really want ?

technically the flat tappet cam lobes aren’t centered in the lifter bore so the lifters rotate.
The roller cam lifters aren’t centered over the lobe either.
And why would you want to use a flat tappet?

sutphen 30 04-08-2022 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4828173)
And why would you want to use a flat tappet?

can only get a 3/4 race cam in flat tappet.:D

SB 04-08-2022 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4828180)
can only get a 3/4 race cam in flat tappet.:D

:)
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stinkbomb 04-08-2022 07:48 AM

A good flat tappet in my application will have more longevity. Guys think 200 or even 500 hour top-end rebuilds are acceptable but I don't, not for what I'm doing.

hogie roll 04-08-2022 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by stinkbomb (Post 4828185)
A good flat tappet in my application will have more longevity. Guys think 200 or even 500 hour top-end rebuilds are acceptable but I don't, not for what I'm doing.

I think they are less reliable than mild rollers these days. Risk of not getting broken in properly and then having to use special oil for its entire life

TomZ 04-08-2022 08:49 AM

Too much risk with a flat tappet. And a mild Comp hydraulic roller will pretty much live forever. The factory gives you everything you need to get it done reliably? Why even bother going backwards with it?

SB 04-08-2022 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by stinkbomb (Post 4828185)
A good flat tappet in my application will have more longevity. Guys think 200 or even 500 hour top-end rebuilds are acceptable but I don't, not for what I'm doing.

Those hrs are for blue motors which use high lift vs duration cams. Merc also used lower psi valve springs (than most people would use for these) for some reason.

cheech 04-08-2022 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by stinkbomb (Post 4828185)
A good flat tappet in my application will have more longevity. Guys think 200 or even 500 hour top-end rebuilds are acceptable but I don't, not for what I'm doing.

Way more to it than just flat tappet VS roller regarding top end intervals.
Anyone with rusty mid 90 Chevy trucks running around your area?
They're everywhere, still running with roller cams after a gazillion hours and no top end service.

stinkbomb 04-08-2022 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by cheech (Post 4828209)
Way more to it than just flat tappet VS roller regarding top end intervals.
Anyone with rusty mid 90 Chevy trucks running around your area?
They're everywhere, still running with roller cams after a gazillion hours and no top end service.

Yes I am quite familiar with roller cams and no I am not using a little stick like what is in an old l19 7.4.

This deal is right around where the 561 cam was, 22X/23X and mid 550 lift. A roller would certainly work but a good flat tappet setup here will last longer. And by good I'm not talking about an EPC cam you are buying from the 20 year old "tech" reading out of the Comp catalog :p


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