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Tractionless 04-12-2022 12:22 PM

Won't keep it cheaper for long, 2 million less acres of corn were planted this year. It also goes against the regime's claimed climate friendliness as it produces more smog in summer. Yet another moronic decision.

SB 04-12-2022 12:27 PM

I wouldn’t worry. Mayor Pete will help with a good solution.

compedgemarine 04-12-2022 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4828746)
I wouldn’t worry. Mayor Pete will help with a good solution.

not taking advice from a guy who thinks he understands transportation because he is familiar with the term 'putting a banana in the tailpipe'

liberator221 04-12-2022 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Tractionless (Post 4828745)
Won't keep it cheaper for long, 2 million less acres of corn were planted this year. It also goes against the regime's claimed climate friendliness as it produces more smog in summer. Yet another moronic decision.

I’m sure corn prices are going way up to due to higher fuel prices for planting and harvest, and fertilizer is going through the roof since the Russia/Ukraine fiasco.
No mean tweets though!!

underpsi68 04-12-2022 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Wally (Post 4828717)
They claim its "cleaner" for the environment but its 5% less power then straight gasoline.

What do you mean it's 5% less power?

underpsi68 04-12-2022 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by farmo83 (Post 4828741)
More alcohol=more vapor lock, just don't know how bad it will be.

I run e85 in my twin turbo street car. When I say there is a lot of heat under the hood, I mean there is a LOT of heat under the hood lol.

Never had vapor lock.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...98ccf66a93.jpg

SB 04-12-2022 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by underpsi68 (Post 4828809)
I run e85 in my twin turbo street car. When I say there is a lot of heat under the hood, I mean there is a LOT of heat under the hood lol.

Never had vapor lock.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...98ccf66a93.jpg

Cool !
But, your pump is probably in back of car and gravity fead ? And your fuel returns to tank ?

That is merc’s issue. Fuel not gravity fed to pump and Vapor making it to inlet of pump because return goes back to inlet of pump, and then it cavitates and doesn’t move the fuel.

articfriends 04-13-2022 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by underpsi68 (Post 4828808)
What do you mean it's 5% less power?

I saw that too, real math tells us going from "e-10" to e-15 would result in a loss of 1.5% of total energy content per gallon (ethanol having 30% less energy per gallon than gasoline). then in equivalent power, theoretically a motor on e15 will make same power as a motor on e-10, it will just use 1.5% more fuel to do it.

underpsi68 04-13-2022 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4828814)
Cool !
But, your pump is probably in back of car and gravity fead ? And your fuel returns to tank ?

That is merc’s issue. Fuel not gravity fed to pump and Vapor making it to inlet of pump because return goes back to inlet of pump, and then it cavitates and doesn’t move the fuel.

You are correct on my fuel system.

I understand the difference in the merc setup. Don't The boats that have this problem, (i never did on my 496ho), have the problem with no ethanol as well?


farmo83 04-13-2022 07:14 AM

The 496 came with a fuel cooler on it to combat vapor lock. It's built into the fuel filter assembly.

Ethanol is also leaner then gasoline so in absence of a closed loop 02 or a flex fuel sensor if your setup is right on the edge it could be troublesome.


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