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Underdog88 07-05-2022 09:02 AM

Lost spark and loosing my mind. Please help.
 
Last time out one motor stalled while idling. Just shut off like switched turned off. Started back up and ran fine for an hour or so. Later while running on plane it shut off again. Wouldn't restart so I limped in on one motor and went home. I have no spark. This is old school 454 MkIV MSD Billet Distributors (the one which don't require the MSD Box)
Checked wires and grounds. I have power to the coil.
I swapped coils from other motor. no spark.
I pulled and swapped distributors including rotor. no spark
I've not swapped the fairly new distib cap and coil wire which is my next step after the rain stops This occurred to me while typing.
Anything else I could look for?
Thanks for reading.

Mark

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TomZ 07-05-2022 09:28 AM

Disconnect the gray lead from the tach. If the tach is bad, it could ground out the coil.

Another thought too, check the wiring for your lanyard.

AllDodge 07-05-2022 09:29 AM

Check for 12V on the + side of the coil, and keep meter on it while cranking.

Disconnect the Tach (gray wire) from the - side of coil

SB 07-05-2022 09:32 AM

Wouldn’t be the 20,000 th time the msd mag pickup 0r box gave up the ghost.

Underdog88 07-05-2022 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4837377)
Wouldn’t be the 20,000 th time the msd mag pickup 0r box gave up the ghost.

Thanks. This MSD dist. don't use a box. I used to drag race and I call them red bricks and swore I could have built a garage out of them. I swapped distributors to eliminate the pick-up.
https://www.holley.com/products/igni...rs/parts/83606

Underdog88 07-05-2022 10:26 AM

Thanks Tom and Dodge for the gray wire advice. Will try. On the lanyard I don't "think" I would have power to the coil?
Thanks all

TomZ 07-05-2022 11:52 AM

Would depend on how the lanyard is set up. Mine can be configured to break the power connection (that’s how I have set-up) or it can ground the tack wire. Assuming most would use the cut 12v side but you never know.

Underdog88 07-05-2022 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4837391)
Would depend on how the lanyard is set up. Mine can be configured to break the power connection (that’s how I have set-up) or it can ground the tack wire. Assuming most would use the cut 12v side but you never know.

I wired it 12-13yrs ago LOL So you never know! Thanks again. I THINK i have the ignition switch power running thru the kill. Worth a second look.

mrv8outboard 07-05-2022 09:15 PM

You can remove the orange wire from the (-) negative side of the coil. place a jumper lead on the (-) side of the coil. Using a spark checker at the coil, turn on the ignition and tap other end of the jumper to engine ground. If you have spark as you tap the lead the pickup or magnet is bad in the distributor.

Underdog88 07-07-2022 01:27 PM

Disconnected tach wire (gray on neg side of coil) and checked that I continued to have power to the hot side while cranking. No spark.
Mr V8 I think I eliminated that by swapping distributors from the running motor. Just remembered the coil wire and changing that now.
Thanks for the suggestions all:) Still pulling hair... and a coil wire now.

Underdog88 07-07-2022 01:47 PM

swapped coil wires and dist. cap. ugh

AllDodge 07-07-2022 01:54 PM

When you swapped the coil and Dizzy where these wires swapped also or did it stay with the motor?

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Underdog88 07-07-2022 02:06 PM

[QUOTE=AllDodge;4837623]When you swapped the coil and Dizzy where these wires swapped also or did it stay
Thanks for the idea Dodge! Those wires stayed. I'm on it now. BTW I'm all Dodge too cept for these damn Chebbies in the boat. Will reply soon.,


Underdog88 07-07-2022 03:25 PM

Winner winner Chicken Dinner!!!!
All Dodge pointed me in the right direction. I checked the grounds at the coil which I thought was the dist wire but, I had it and the other motor running to the transom grounds for whatever reason. Both will get moved tomorrow.
Looks like this ground got into the coupler. Lesson learned and thanks to all for playing along. Love this site.
I owe AllDodge dinner or drinks! Thanks Brother!
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TomZ 07-07-2022 05:20 PM

Always a great feeling when you get it figured out!!

Underdog88 07-07-2022 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4837642)
Always a great feeling when you get it figured out!!

With help from Ya'll and tomorrow when I clean up the mess and hear it run I'll come back and brag/thank you guys again.

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Underdog88 07-10-2022 07:30 AM

Houston, we have ignition!
Thanks again you guys.
Mark

Helmwurst 07-10-2022 07:58 AM

Where was that picture taken? Looks like Sanibel Island.

Underdog88 07-13-2022 07:25 AM

That's Sarasota Bay in the background beached at South Lido Park in Big Pass.
This is Sanibel last winter too:) and a great hotel in St James City.
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RSCHAP1 07-13-2022 10:20 AM

Congrats on the fix


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