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IMO the old saying is still true, no replacement for displacement when it comes to low end torque
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Originally Posted by hogie roll
(Post 4848536)
The exhaust scavenging benefit of a flat plane crank is not trivial. It would be worth 35 ft lbs of torque on the LT5 I recall.
The only trick is keeping the vibes in check. I think that's one of the keys in the new Z06 is special mounts to combat the vibrations. |
Originally Posted by RSCHAP1
(Post 4848634)
Wondering if any connection what so ever to newest Z06 Vette.
Only other thing I have heard domestically with flat plane crank. Coincidence? Doubt it, but still wonder... If I remember right that engine got nixed for timing chain issues. |
Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4848542)
In a boat with standard wet non tuned cast iron manifolds ?
But also, at higher engine speeds, the short exhaust runners get closer to the tuning window. I noticed some wake boats have a true SBC cast header with a cat integrated. Maybe reversion improves too? |
Originally Posted by RSCHAP1
(Post 4848634)
Wondering if any connection what so ever to newest Z06 Vette.
Only other thing I have heard domestically with flat plane crank. Coincidence? Doubt it, but still wonder... |
Originally Posted by cheech
(Post 4848724)
Wonder if that's what the new engine mount ordeal is in this 409 situation?
I think that's one of the keys in the new Z06 is special mounts to combat the vibrations. |
Originally Posted by hogie roll
(Post 4848745)
Doubt it.
Thanks. Brad. (937)545-8991 |
No that was the C4 ZR1, DOHC
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Originally Posted by IGetWet
(Post 4848773)
No that was the C4 ZR1, DOHC
But there WAS that collab, then. So I’m not hallucinating. Thanks. Brad. (937)545-8991 |
Originally Posted by Brad Christy
(Post 4848772)
Didn't Chevy go to Merc to design the blown 427 that went in to the reintroduced ZR-1 about a decade ago?
Thanks. Brad. (937)545-8991 |
Originally Posted by Brad Christy
(Post 4848774)
IGetWet,
But there WAS that collab, then. So I’m not hallucinating. Thanks. Brad. (937)545-8991 Merc probably cribbed the blueprints for the qcv4 imo |
Originally Posted by hogie roll
(Post 4848742)
I would say yes. Otherwise there is no reason to do it.
But also, at higher engine speeds, the short exhaust runners get closer to the tuning window. I noticed some wake boats have a true SBC cast header with a cat integrated. Maybe reversion improves too? Soeaking of which, The exhaust pic’d on this 409 looks like your normal sbc merc msnifold riser. if this 409 ebds up being the newer Vette engine, thst would better explain the price tag, but again, 400hp sbc for +30k ? Come on. Ridiculous. Why pay $8k for a killer $4k gamer computer that only plays Pong and Asteroids. Great games, but $30 console will produce same results and still play them forever without dying. Hopefully there is more info they are holding back. This is nutz. Imho again, they are really trying to go mostly outboards. They are oretty much theircslready. |
Originally Posted by hogie roll
(Post 4848780)
Merc built the C4 LT5 because GM didn’t have a manufacturing line for it at the time.
Merc probably cribbed the blueprints for the qcv4 imo |
To me it seems like a bored and stroked small block (Yes I'm sure it is the block mercury claims to have designed themselves, which sure looks like a smallblock to me), a flat plane crank thrown in, and a Holley throttle body.
Hard to justify that price...especially for 400 hp. |
I’d just deal with the catalyst system on the main Mercury branded 8.2L for that price…you can get the brand new dressed 8.2 MerCruiser Big Block with ECM and all for $22,000 with a cable controls option. I think this is solely for those afraid of cats, with how cats run 300k miles in vehicles I’ll take my chances with cats before I spend $30,000 for less power and torque. MerCruiser will also sell you the 8.2L long block for $15,000 and you can skip the cats and use your accessories. Not sure who will be buying this interesting piece…
I would not do any of the above when several companies make new 7.4 and 8.2 engines with DART blocks and forged rotating assemblies for less $$ than anything from the mothership. |
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