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cougarman 04-05-2023 03:06 PM

LSX Tall Deck Engine
 
Anyone using or seeing a place for the (LSX Tall Deck Engine) in the marine world over a (10.200 Tall Deck) Big Block?

Ole adage no replacement for displacement, but the LSX is built well from a design perspective.
Curious on thoughts or potential benefits others are seeing in the offshore world?


Thank you
Cougarman

Wildman_grafix 04-05-2023 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 4863929)
Anyone using or seeing a place for the (LSX Tall Deck Engine) in the marine world over a (10.200 Tall Deck) Big Block?

Ole adage no replacement for displacement, but the LSX is built well from a design perspective.
Curious on thoughts or potential benefits others are seeing in the offshore world?


Thank you
Cougarman

Doesn't seem to have caught on, with a SC they put a lot of power out. I think it could be because everyone sticks with the old design BBC since they just don't want to change or just move to OB's.

cougarman 04-05-2023 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4863935)
Doesn't seem to have caught on, with a SC they put a lot of power out. I think it could be because everyone sticks with the old design BBC since they just don't want to change or just move to OB's.

Perhaps not as many custom engines anymore with the Merc line up too

hogie roll 04-05-2023 08:36 PM

https://www.ilmor.com/Marine/High-Performance/MV8-570

cougarman 04-05-2023 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4863984)

Nice thanks for sharing
Looks to be the standard height block

Wildman_grafix 04-05-2023 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4863984)

Yes in the standard height 6.2 there are some nice power if replacing 500-550HP BBC but $$$$$

This thing is cool with direct injection but cost for one you can build tow BBC's.

https://marineenginedepot.com/new-62...-airpac-620-hp

https://www.kemequipment.com/marine-...#product-title

600 ft lbs at 3000 rpm, not bad for a little motor.

This is the tall deck right?

https://www.kemequipment.com/marine-...#product-title

smokediver 04-06-2023 05:22 AM

The LSX is listed for under 20 grand , add another 1200 for closed cooling and another grand for misc to mate to a bravo. Not a bad deal really.

cougarman 04-06-2023 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4863995)


This one looks to be a tall deck... (LSX)
Nice find for off the shelf persay...

cheech 04-06-2023 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4863995)

If that is based on the CPP LSX 454, which I'd heavily guess it is. It has the same bore and stroke.
It is not a tall deck. It has the standard production 9.240" deck height.

CPP offers LSX blocks in 9.240" and 9.720" deck.
Dart offers various LS derivation blocks in 9.240", 9.450", and 9.750" deck.

87MirageIntruder 04-06-2023 09:58 AM

I think we are going to start seeing some cool builds very soon from guys starting with the 8.8L PSI "R" blocks. They have a forged crank, 4.5 stroke. I believe it's a 10.24" deck height. This is the LS big block that GM designed but never actually put into production, now PSI has the rights and is producing it for industrial applications.

cougarman 04-06-2023 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by 87MirageIntruder (Post 4864037)
I think we are going to start seeing some cool builds very soon from guys starting with the 8.8L PSI "R" blocks. They have a forged crank, 4.5 stroke. I believe it's a 10.24" deck height. This is the LS big block that GM designed but never actually put into production, now PSI has the rights and is producing it for industrial applications.

Have a link for more info?

8.8 Liter - Power Solutions International, Inc. (psiengines.com) ??

Plowtownmissile 04-06-2023 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 4864041)

Yup that's it

cougarman 04-06-2023 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by 87MirageIntruder (Post 4864037)
I think we are going to start seeing some cool builds very soon from guys starting with the 8.8L PSI "R" blocks. They have a forged crank, 4.5 stroke. I believe it's a 10.24" deck height. This is the LS big block that GM designed but never actually put into production, now PSI has the rights and is producing it for industrial applications.

Nice to see specs on Deck height?

hogie roll 04-06-2023 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by 87MirageIntruder (Post 4864037)
I think we are going to start seeing some cool builds very soon from guys starting with the 8.8L PSI "R" blocks. They have a forged crank, 4.5 stroke. I believe it's a 10.24" deck height. This is the LS big block that GM designed but never actually put into production, now PSI has the rights and is producing it for industrial applications.

I’m not sure they’ll take off, maybe if they are dirt cheap. You can’t put as much bore in them as a dart big M.

cheech 04-06-2023 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 4864050)
Nice to see specs on Deck height?

Supposedly based on the Gen 7 8100. Utilize a bigger bore and stroke over the 8100. They bought rights from GM is the word.
So as 87Mirage said should be 10.24"

They are hashed over in this thread if you missed it.
https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...ter-550ci.html


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4864051)
I’m not sure they’ll take off, maybe if they are dirt cheap. You can’t put as much bore in them as a dart big M.

I doubt it also. Especially if the PSI are non-siamese. So 4.350" max bore more than likely.
Most already nearly despise the 8100 or 496 in the marine world as oddballs and their differences compared to the Mark IV, Gen V, and VI.

hogie roll 04-06-2023 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by cheech (Post 4864055)
Supposedly based on the Gen 7 8100. Utilize a bigger bore and stroke over the 8100. They bought rights from GM is the word.
So as 87Mirage said should be 10.24"

They are hashed over in this thread if you missed it.
https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...ter-550ci.html



I doubt it also. Especially if the PSI are non-siamese. So 4.350" max bore more than likely.
Most already nearly despise the 8100 or 496 in the marine world as oddballs and their differences compared to the Mark IV, Gen V, and VI.

I think they could be cool if you can make decent power with stock or near stock heads and intake, would be a nice budget combo. Also would be sweet for power in a truck.

87MirageIntruder 04-06-2023 04:24 PM

PSI makes 2 types of the 8.8L. One is built like the traditional Gen 7 BBC, the other is the LS version with a different block and heads, intake etc. The injectors go into the head on the LS version.

I believe some of the PSI blocks were built by Dart, not sure if all of them are. The PSI block is a lot more stout than the GM version of the gen 7. I know guys are buying PSI core engines off Ebay for under $2k and starting to figure these things out. Arizona Speed was involved in modifying the PSI intake on the LS version to get the runner length correct for marine applications. Even with the PSI camshaft that was super low lift and designed for industrial low HP, it turned over 500HP on the dyno. So these things will turn some good numbers once the formula is figured out. But as said earlier the gen 7 is the redheaded stepchild so even if the PSI platform works out it will struggle to gain unanimous traction from the purists.

cheech 04-07-2023 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4864056)
I think they could be cool if you can make decent power with stock or near stock heads and intake, would be a nice budget combo. Also would be sweet for power in a truck.

I'd agree.

Originally Posted by 87MirageIntruder (Post 4864068)
PSI makes 2 types of the 8.8L. One is built like the traditional Gen 7 BBC, the other is the LS version with a different block and heads, intake etc. The injectors go into the head on the LS version.

I get the head and the rest of the induction system.
What have you come across as far as the blocks being different?

87MirageIntruder 04-07-2023 09:27 AM

The LS style gen 7 block is very different as you can see below.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9783c3bc1.jpeg


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