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502 mag mpi no start
I have a 1996 baja 272 with a bone stock 502 mag mpi. It has ran once all season, on Memorial Day. Before the season I did plugs and wires for a general tuneup since I just bought it last year, and ran good last year. Now the one time I had it on the water it was misfiring and would only get up to 1500 rpm’s. Idled it to the dock and checked the wires to see if maybe they weren’t on the right tips on the distributor. Went to start it and got no crank and the cranking battery was arcing on the negative terminal. Went and got some batteries and it would crank forever but did not want to start. Had to get towed in and have been trying to figure this out ever since.
we did find the kill switch to be bad so we bypassed it but still crank no start. Confirmed it has spark and smells like it has fuel and the pump primes when turning the key. Any other ideas? I’m trying to salvage my boating season and I am at a loss with this. Every mechanic is a month or more out and I’m paying for a slip with a non running boat, lol. Any help is welcome! |
It ran ok until you changed spark plugs, now it misses out and won’t restart?
How did you check for spark? |
Originally Posted by liberator221
(Post 4873386)
It ran ok until you changed spark plugs, now it misses out and won’t restart?
How did you check for spark? |
Double check firing order. Easy to cross up wires.
Pull cap and look for carbon tracks on rotor. (just put a new cap and rotor on if you didn’t) |
Originally Posted by liberator221
(Post 4873389)
Double check firing order. Easy to cross up wires.
Pull cap and look for carbon tracks on rotor. (just put a new cap and rotor on if you didn’t) |
ignition modules will die and do strange things but if you were trying to start it before I would pull and clean all the plugs and they may be so fouled with fuel that it does not want to fire.
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Originally Posted by compedgemarine
(Post 4873496)
ignition modules will die and do strange things but if you were trying to start it before I would pull and clean all the plugs and they may be so fouled with fuel that it does not want to fire.
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Popping out exhaust or intake?
Put throttle wide open and it should start if flooded. |
Did you check the wires are in the correct position on the plugs too? You only mentioned the cap. Your pickup within the distributor may be corroded as well considering how bad you said the cap was.
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Now that you have the cap and rotor changed, screw in a new set of spark plugs. They probably got fuel fouled when the cap was bad.
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Based on your first few sentences, my guess is you messed up your firing order with the new cap and wires.
Second guess is another wire near the dist cap got pinched or is shorting out and some wiring got fried. What was the neg battery terminal arcing on?? |
Originally Posted by Griff
(Post 4873612)
Based on your first few sentences, my guess is you messed up your firing order with the new cap and wires.
Second guess is another wire near the dist cap got pinched or is shorting out and some wiring got fried. What was the neg battery terminal arcing on?? |
There is a schrader valve in front center of intake, kind of tucked under front of intake.
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Originally Posted by liberator221
(Post 4874102)
There is a schrader valve in front center of intake, kind of tucked under front of intake.
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Originally Posted by Omahusker
(Post 4874103)
yeah this thing has me at a loss. It has fuel, spark and compression. Fuel pressure is at 38psi when the pump primes. All cylinders are at 120psi.
Just rebuilt a 454 MPI and motor was running fine when removed. Tried to start on pallet and no start. Replaced the EST module and it fired right up. Why that happened we have no idea but that's what it was |
If you have fuel,spark,and compression it should run. Only stipulation is that ignition occurs close to the correct time. Pull a plug and see if it has fuel on it. Just because you have fuel pressure doesn’t guarantee injectors are firing. How did you check for spark? At the coil or at the plug? Make sure firing order is correct on the cap and follow wires down to plugs. Make sure you used correct rotation when checking firing order.
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Have you hooked it up to a computer to check if it is throwing and codes? That would be my first starting point.
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Originally Posted by Omahusker
(Post 4874097)
Sorry, negative on the battery was smoking and throwing sparks.
If the neg cable is getting hot and smoking/sparking, it is not connected well and not grounded properly. |
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